Lack of female proponents speaking out here—One of the strongest arguments in favor, in my opinion, of ordaining them—they AREN’T pushing for it here. They’re just trying to follow THEIR Leader, whether it’s through valleys of despair or over peaks of exhilarating satisfaction of fulfillment. Bless’em.
Don’t forget this 2015 one:
"Lack of female proponents speaking out here—One of the strongest arguments in favor, in my opinion, of ordaining them—they AREN’T pushing for it here."
There are several of us regular female commenters on this site…Adventism is a Patriarchal religion and does not promote women to top positions of influence or encourage such. If they did…you would see more female participation on this site. Adventist women have been historically taught to not be in the forefront and to be “helpers” this does not encourage women to speak out- quite the opposite.
Religious Telenovela…with the same type of background music.
After years of fighting for equality, women were guaranteed the right to vote in 1920 in the 19th Amendment.
What is amazing to us today–is that women would have to even fight for the right to vote. It seem this is a given fact. We would NEVER have a discussion about WO in 1900, since women could not even vote. The first woman elected to the Senate was Hattie Caraway from Arkansas in 1932. Before that men ruled in government. Men still rule in the ranks of ordained ministry by GC demand (this seems a little outdated, doesn’t it?)
I feel this video is choreographed and scripted. There are no names of the individuals presented, leading to the possible conclusion they are employees or paid for their services. It tells me that I should submit my conscience to the church (not the Lord or Scripture), which is very dangerous. The short bullet points often repeated does not lent to further discussion. Their conclusion is final, as if no other opinion matters. It is not a balanced presentation giving room for disagreement with an open door for resolution.
And conscripting children as a propaganda vehicle is shameless.
Women do speak, unfortunately they are not permitted to air the views in the same medium as their male counterparts. They are limited in their ability to develop hence some find other activities to focus their energies, it is not that they hate God, it is that they hate what men has made God into.
One of the difficulties is seeing error, is when people believe that they own the truth, they focus on the ownership, and forget that God cannot be owned or coerced.
Women are both. Not encouraged to speak out their ideas. Not given the opportunity
to speak to the masses [like men are].
AND as we have seen in this video LITTLE GIRLS are TAUGHT what they can and
cannot do in life – and given Bible as the standard. How can they go against God??
They are STUCK!!
The real (“VERY, VERY fascinating”) issue is not a fight between men and men, but rather between discriminators and non-discriminators. There is a big difference.
No! Nobody should walk away. They should stay and work toward the goal of cleansing the Church from discrimination, eliminating the headship heresy.
I wonder if such a statement could be substantiated with facts. I haven;t seen this happening at all. Let’s not forget that women have been conditioned to stay quiet and accept whatever decisions men made. What is happening now is that men who do not discriminate are fighting those other men from the tribe “The Discriminators.” Thus trying to expunge this shameful practice that is still promoted/supported by the GC.
“Are We Family?”
No, we are not family. We are CHURCH.
The video clearly explores some psychological (emotional) tricks to brainwash the audience. Shame on the GC. Shame on those who produced it, because it’s full of errors and misleading statements.
Well stated, Carlo…our voices are muted or silenced altogether in some cases.
Not hard to miss those psychological “persuasions”.
So very true…Women are second class citizens in the heirachy of the church. This bleeds down into every level of their existence in the church.
Totally “cringe” worthy.
And let’s not leave out abusive.
No, I would not leave that out. They should be ashamed of that psychological manipulation as well. If they don’t…it says even sadder things about them.
Free fall race to the bottom now…
Which is why we have the chattering Brethren on here acting as if they are our “consciences”…appointed by the HS.
Lovely pic…so appropriate!