Why have SDA’s been so adamant in defending the concept of creation ex nihilo some 6,000 years ago along with a flood 4,000 years ago, in the process denying everything evident in the fossil record, the evolution of the species, genetic and comparative biology, geologic history with the incredible lapses of time; in short, the existence of a cosmos, earth, and evidence that gives every appearance of having developed naturally over billions of years?
I will suggest the need to defend Genesis doesn’t proceed from a search for the truth about origins. Rather, it proceeds from the need to underpin one of the two pillars of the reason for the church’s existence; that is, the sabbath. Once committed to the sabbath, it immediately became absolutely necessary for theological and self-identifying purposes to defend the Genesis story as literal history at all costs. If that “history” falls, so does the reason for the sabbath and by extension, the reason for the existence of the denomination. When they “discovered” the sabbath truth, they were committed to an anti-science position from that point forward.
The apparent reason for this is the 4th commandment in Exodus 20 pointing back to the creation story as the origin and reason for sabbath observance. Without the cause, there is no reason for the command. Perhaps it should be noted that at the second presentation of the 10 commandments in Deut 5 (call it the revised version), the sabbath command isn’t connected to the creation at all. Instead, it is presented as a part of the covenant coming from the supposed rescue/exodus from Egypt, a perpetual observance thereof.
You’re correct, of course. They could just as easily have based their faith upon Deut. 5:15 and observed the Sabbath as a memorial to deliverance from Egypt and left all that controversy and contention aside. It would have opened up a world of faith,science, and study to Adventism that has long been denied Adventist students unless they want to knowingly and often tragically buck the system.
In reviewing the Notes & References, I do not see any reference to the “watershed” book on Dinosaurs by Atty David Read @dcread and foreword by our highly esteemed president of the GC TW. Perhaps having read the book would have convinced the author to remain a fundamentalist.
Bart, here is your once-in-lifetime chance to shine.
I saw this book online a few a weeks ago, read the preview pages, and added it to my wish list. I was interested to read this review and discover that Earl Douglass had an Adventist background. Too bad I didn’t know about that background when I wrote my book on dinosaurs.
Intimate knowledge of the fossil record does not necessarily lead to a loss of faith in Bible history. Many PhD scientists have studied dinosaurs very carefully and have not lost their creationist faith, including my friend Art Chadwick. My own study of the topic has considerably strengthened my faith in Bible history, and especially in the writings of Ellen White.
Whatever the fossil record is, it does not document Darwin’s theory of origins. As Darwin himself admitted, if his theory was true, we should find the common ancestor of the Cambrian forms in strata about 1 billion years old, with a steady increase in complexity and differentiation of forms leading up to the Cambrian, which is supposedly about 550 to 530 million years old. (By the way, some “molecular clock” studies, i.e., studies of the rate of mutations, say that the common ancestor should be around a billion years old.) But of course, that is not what we find in the pre-Cambrian fossil record. We find single-celled creatures and then the odds and ends of the Ediacaran forms, and then the Cambrian explosion, when something like 30 different phyla appear more or less all at once. That’s not Darwin’s theory of evolution; that’s a seafloor fauna being buried near the beginning of the Genesis Flood. The rest of the fossil record is the same–animals appearing fully formed, with candidates for ancestor forms few and far between. Again, not a record of evolution, but of ecological zones or biomes being sequentially buried.
Well, obviously I could argue this all day (and already have at 600 page book-length), but suffice it to say that Ron Numbers’ insinuation that knowledge of the fossil record leads inexorably to the defenestration of creationism is not true.
…”but suffice it to say that Ron Numbers’ insinuation that knowledge of the fossil record leads inexorably to the defenestration of creationism is not true.“
I would expect nothing else from you, David. A true Believer…is a true Believer.
My personal experience is that true believers are always suspect in some way. Maybe @dcread is my first introduction to one who is not? I’d actually like to discover that I’m wrong.
Your reason does make sense on the surface. Yet, I think, keeping of a holy day, must have been the intent of God in teaching the Hebrew peoples to observe the Sabbath since their beginnings. At least since the time of Moses forward. Maybe… in God’s mind, whether long creation or short 6 day creation was not a concern. Either way God is still the author of the life coming into existence. Without God there never would be no human consciousness.
Maybe… it is like a person thinking about doing a major project gathering materials that may be needed, for years. Then, all at once the conditions are right and with a burst of energy in 6 days he finishes and cuts the ribbon on the 7th day. Although it took him almost a lifetime to assemble the funds and needed materials, with a vision of the completed project always in view.
To me, untrained in earth sciences, it seems that even the existence of billions of years of fossil records and old dated human bones, should not exist, if all of creation was a 6 day event. The two events are not compatible.
Maybe…God started life on earth with a small seed of DNA (whatever). Then he gave time (billions of years) for its development. Then when conditions were ripe, he stopped the evolutionary clock and quickly finished the work in an orderly method, concluding in the creation of Eden and Adam & Eve. Human life at that time had all it needed to prosper and reproduce on earth for an indefinite period of time. Until God’s plans for humans all blew up–with humans refusing to be accountable to God and his earth created laws and rules.
Maybe…the lessons of creation God intended to teach humanity had nothing to do with geological record. Instead from creation we learn of Sex and Marriage, family, loyalty of Adam to his wife, discernment between truth and error, holy time to communicate with earth’s creator, and appreciation of the world of nature in plants and animals. Until it all blew up–nature morphed into killers of mankind.
However it all happened, we live in a broken world with broken people, both of which need to be rescued. We believe that rescue began in earnest with the Hebrew people beginning with Abraham. We also believe that the rescue mission was victorious in the ministry of Jesus of Nazareth but incomplete until all creation and all human history is “new.” We should think more of apocalyptic and looking ahead as the energizing force for faith, not looking back to define what is or is not history, a job we cannot do to everyone’s satisfaction.
This is where one has to look past the Genesis narrative and understand the psychodynamics that promoted the need to believe in a literal creation. Then it makes total sense…
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“must have been the intent of God”
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“Maybe… in God’s mind”
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“Maybe… it is like a person thinking about doing a major project”
This is what I would term the IPHWCTF argument (If pigs had wings, could they fly?). It requires getting into and understanding the mind and intent of a god, then speculating on what might have happened. Too many maybe’s and not enough probability. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is not a good model for discovering knowledge.
You know very well that apocalyptic isn’t predicting the future per se, but anticipating BY FAITH a future that exists in “promise,” more like what one hopes for when getting married and planning on children rather than planning now for a war you know is coming. You are correct on the “inspiration” concern, in my view. If that is what you mean by “prediction,” no quarrel. But the apocalyptic future is an expectation developed over millennia, we believe, “guided” by events and the work of the Spirit in cooperation with scores of writers, etc. that struggled to explain the meaning of what they were experiencing. We believe there is a future with God that cannot be described or explained or imagined, but is nevertheless real. If there is no such future, we will not experience disappointment since we will no longer be. If there is such a future, we will experience a surprising joy, for no believer lives without profound doubts bubbling up in her sea of faith.
I assume, then, that you reject the historicist method of interpreting apocalyptic writings, since that method presumes the future (from the writer’s perspective) would unfold as predicted with clearly identifiable milestones along the way.