Friedensau University 4th International Symposium — Day 2

This is a perfect example of CONFIRMATION BIAS. It happens in religion as well as politics. It goes hand in hand with PROJECTION, accusing the “other side” of what you are doing.

Simply put, Trump was promoting the power of the individual to be in control his/her own life; and those now in charge want to manage everything from the cradle to the grave within a complicated bureaucratic “infrastructure” (a current new meaning of the word) where the state controls your entire life - socialism on steroids.

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how can you be in control of your life when you’re racked with college debt or medical bills that you’ll never be able to pay off, or when you’re forced to drink and use water that’s slowly killing you…in biden’s american jobs plan, america will take on some of what’s good about living in canada, sweden and denmark…the average person can focus on what he or she wants to focus on, rather than what he or she has to focus on…

practically speaking, there are too many joe manchins and susan collinses in the senate for anything biden wants to get out of control…i really think all the fuss being whipped up on FOX non-stop is over the top…of course FOX is benefitting nicely from the hysteria…

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I think we’re drifting far beyond the “International Symposium”; however I think we’re going to find the current social trends are going to land us right in the middle of what this group is talking about.

These utopian societies have come and gone throughout history, and have failed every time, ending with totalitarian regimes. There is too much to pay for the securities you’re talking about - selling out freedom of thought and speech. You must not have read “1984”. It’s all there. We might find out that we’re being controlled through algorithms, technology has forced upon us to control the global populace. No current religion will control the entire globe; but technology sure can.

There is much more that can be said but I think we should be done for now. :wink:

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orwell was required reading at SLA when i was there…and notice that 1984 has come and gone, without too much incident (kind of like Y2K soon after jan 1, 2,000)…airstrip one has broken free from oceania, assuming you have problems with the EU, and nothing big happened in '84 outside of prince and purple rain…

but if you want to get into big brother, how about a certain resident in palm beach who’s whipping up constant animosity against people who’ve opposed him, like mitt romney and liz cheney…talk about cancel culture…people can’t even express the truth about trump’s lying ways or the integrity of the 2020 election without being censored, booed, or threatened with a primary challenge…so much for freedom and independence…

i don’t pretend the dems don’t have their issues…but honestly, america and the world is hamstrung without a viable GOP right now…trump is still whipping up the worst in people…and now conservatives are fighting the covid vaccines, just when they’re starting to make a difference…if you wanted to write a riveting thriller with a cast of totally improbable characters, you really need look no further than today’s GOP…

the only good thing i see is that trump is 74…how much longer can he last, number one…but in addition, none of his kids have his personality…they won’t be able to carry on what he believes is his legacy…we just need to get past covid, and then the next 10 yrs or so…

So say you, I have quite another take.

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well, trump has just been re-banned from facebook…there are a lot of people besides me who see something wrong with his influence…

but moving forward, i see a lot of hope in the short term…the vaccines mean an end to the pandemic as a foreseeable possibility, which means doomsday scenarios about the 2nd coming will likely wane…we’ll soon be in a position to take a true stock of our historical position, without being influenced by so many conspiracy theories…

what we can say now is that covid certainly has been a lesson in how quickly and extensively things can change…

…and you see this as a good sign? There was a time, under the US Constitution, where you would say - “I think you’re wrong, but I would defend to the death, your right to say it.” Gone are those days. Now if the “woke” don’t like what you say, you will be CANCELLED. This may mean you lose your job; and certainly will be kicked off all the ways you can communicate, and where you would post your thoughts and beliefs. I don’t see this as a good omen. Another quote that used to be popular in the “land of the free”:

First they came for the socialist, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they come for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.

Be careful what you celebrate - you may be next - and your beliefs system even forecast that you will be. Maybe sooner than we think.

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yes i do…and i hope that after 6 months, zuckerberg will have the courage to extend the trump ban even further…

what you don’t seem to factor into your thinking is the fact that trump is qualitatively different than others - the socialists, the trade unionists, and the jews…he has shown us that he’s a threat to democracy because he is corrosive to the rule of law as it applies to himself…over and over again he has shown us that he cannot be trusted…

there is such a thing as people who are so dangerous that they need to be quarantined…for instance, had hitler been quarantined, the holocaust wouldn’t have happened…had nero been quarantined, there is evidence that the fires of rome wouldn’t have happened…and yes, if trump had been quarantined, the capitol attack that cost lives wouldn’t have happened…

we can’t just blindly give privileges to people who show their capacity and intent to abuse those privileges just because we believe in giving privileges impartially…there comes a point where reason and judgment has to be exercised…democracy becomes self-imploding when it isn’t guarded, and when it is left to run amok…

what the facebook ban is saying is that if anyone breaks its rules, there will be consequences, irrespective of who they are…they are a private company…they have a constitutional right to make operational rules…trump broke their posting rules on a continuing basis and received numerous warnings…had facebook failed to act, they would have shown partiality, just like barr’s justice department when it shielded trump from the mueller investigation by mischaracterizing it…i think facebook is showing impartiality, and demonstrating democracy…it’s showing it can be trusted (full disclosure: i’m not on facebook)…

It has been shocking (to say the least) to see people supportive of banning and censoring people. This has been a very frightening development.

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but carol, trump is banning and censoring people who voted to impeach him, and/or who won’t agree that the 2020 presidential election was rigged…the entire GOP congress is so frightened by him, they’ll likely vote to remove liz cheney from her no.3 leadership post in congress next week…

are you at all shocked by this development…

Poppy cock - (whatever that means) - just seems appropriate. You keep parroting the left’s talking points without any facts. They hounded Trump for four years with this Russian drama which came to NOTHING, while Hunter Biden is up to his neck in corruption to the benefit of his father, as well, (VP at the time) and everybody’s covering for him.

The impeachment, carried out by “congressional inquisition”, all marching up from the basement to carry out “justice”- came to nothing as well. In the meantime, the country is going to “hell in a hand basket”, with crime growing and police resigning, to the rejoicing of the police-haters. In general, it’s like the Bible says, The good is called bad; and the bad becomes the good." Anyone who thinks we’re on the right track hasn’t had a proper education. At least we put on good Christmas programs.
Stay tuned…

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I’m not for censorship, no matter where it comes from.

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