Reply to Lindy
But since you did sort of touch it, I’ll add some observations:
If this link works it will list even more than the dozen that you mentioned were there.
The important one of course is Gen 2:7
“God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul”
I believe this to be an accurate description of the way the first man came into being.
I, myself, have a different story about my first breath. Unlike Adam who started as a lump of clay, I was born alive even before my first breath. I was very much alive, and fully human. It would have been very easy Immediately after my birth to deprive me of my first breath, but I would have been fully alive and human until my untimely demise had that been the case.
I tell that story just to illustrate that Adventists are wrong to apply the story of Adam’s creation to the embryogenesis of human babies and say that they somehow possess no soul or are not fully human, or whatever. Human embryos get their “breath” by cellular respiration at the cellular level and are alive and respiring even as the germ cells unite. To say or imply otherwise is to read more into Adam’s story than is medically and textually reasonable. Life’s beginning does not depend on a breath of air, it depends on the power of the Creator. Even a human can survive for a while without breathing air through the technology of ECMO.
Although I’ve heard Seventh Day Adventists use that verse as an argument, I rather doubt that it’s official SDA doctrine, seeing that the SDA Church is split on the issue.
Before his birth, John the Baptist in addition to his soul, possessed awareness and cognition. In fact he apparently even had intrauterine perception of extrauterine activity that was revealed to him by the Holy Spirit and his mother.
I appreciated your long list of OT atrocities that quite well demonstrated that the OT Israelites had very little respect for human life, especially Gentile life. It is a good list which I shall preserve. I will add to it their permissive rules on slavery which most Christians rightly oppose. They could and still do believe it is OK to enslave Gentiles and keep them forever.
“Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.”
“Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.”
“And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor.
New Testament Christians are Called to a higher standard of ethics. Christ gave us a new commandment; that we love one another. Most Christians rightly oppose slavery despite Leviticus. Many Christians also oppose elective abortion.
This is not a male female question. It is a human question of ethics and morality. And it does have every bit as much potential to split the denomination as does ordination, homosexuality, and questions of gender. Perhaps if the SDA Church can not agree on the treatment of unborn humans the denomination will be split by God Almighty.