GYC Annual Meeting Offers End-Time Inspiration and Outreach Opportunities

Perhaps the GYC youth will find it interesting that a large proportion of the sovereign countries in this world have diplomatic ties to an ecclesiastical authority, rather than to the small city state in Rome that answers to it.

U.S. AND VATICAN RESTORE FULL TIES AFTER 117 YEARS

SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES JAN. 11, 1984

President Reagan announced that he would nominate William A. Wilson, a California industrialist and real estate developer, to serve as the United States Ambassador to the Holy See. Mr. Wilson, a longtime friend of the President, has been serving as the President’s personal representative to the Vatican since 1981.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/11/world/us-and-vatican-restore-full-ties-after-117-years.html

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Interesting, isn’t it? :slight_smile:

Above all when we consider that the SDA church has been saying for a long time that the Catholic church would regain her supremacy and influence in the world.

People have the tendency to forget that when EGW wrote the Great Controversy, the anti Catholic sentiment was high in the US.

In that time, if you had told American citizens that their country would have diplomatic ties with the Vatican, they would have laughed to your face.

If you had told the people in the US that the big majority of the Supreme Court Justices would be Catholic, they would have said that you were a lunatic.

If you had told them that several US presidents would, one day, kneel down before the body of a dead pope, they would have driven you out of town, tarred and feathered.

If you had told them that, one day, a pope would come to the US, address Congress, and that relics would be travelling throughout the country, they would have told you that the end of the world was nigh.

Things are happening in the world in general, and in the US in particular, and some people are awakening and discerning the signs of the times.

Maybe it is not a surprise that young people want to be involved.

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Affirmative. :scream_cat:

Be there or be square. :sunglasses:

Here’s a strange, as Paul Harvey used to say:

Both these articles came out in January of 1984:

(Is that a Catholic Priest grinning on the cover of Ministry Magazine above?)

Just a coincidence, of course, but I tend to notice stuff like that.

But, let me ask you this: if someone wanted to separate Adventists out from the herd of other conservative Christians, for whatever murky reasons, and with whatever plans for the future, wouldn’t they like to see Adventists breaking the Sixth Commandment, and thereby making their whole message a laughing stock, or worse?

Just a thought…

Yes.

And let’s not leave out the sitting Vice President, Mike Pence, self-described “Evangelical Catholic.”

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And let’s not leave out the Attorney General nominee, William Barr:

The interim Attorney General believes in “biblical justice,” in the United States (google his interesting views on various other things).

This is not about being “Catholic haters,” to use David Larson’s phrase.

This is about the self-same issue that is tearing Adventism asunder at this moment: hierarchical authoritarianism.

Is God an authoritarian?

OR

Is God relational?

If we don’t pay attention, we’ll wish we had.

Just my opinion.

GYC youth: you are the hope of the future. Pray for your elders today. We pray for you.

What does the Bible say about shedding innocent blood?

David Larson letter: Roy Branson Sabbath School Class at LLUC to discuss abortion today:
https://conversation.spectrummagazine.org/t/lounge-open-thread/11538/6476?u=cassie

May the Father’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven, as Jesus prayed.

Adventist shepherds: you have a grave responsibility for these young people. I fear for you all.

I was wondering the same thing… :smile:

This is a very good thought.

History showed us how the rejection of one principle can bring the rejection of the whole edifice.

It is because Protestants rejected the sabbath and kept the unbiblical Sunday tradition that the Catholic church at the Council of Trent rejected the arguments of Protestantism showing that even Protestants put traditions above Scripture.

The Adventist church is in the same situation: if we say that the Ten Commandments are essential but we discard even one in practice then we should not be surprised if people tell us that we are showing that the Ten Commandments are, in fact, not binding.

And he is not the only one…

No, God is not authoritarian… but He has authority.

And, yes, God is relational.

Exactly!

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It’s a good thing to see youth involved in outreach and helping. I don’t see cherry-picking everyone’s personal beliefs as helpful. I would hope there would be a range of ideas. The only red flag would be if they were intolerant of other outreach groups. hopefully they give the Gospel their first priority.

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March 21 Messiah?

Netanhahu hand keys to Jewish Messiah?

Rabbi David Nachsh, a close friend of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu who witnessed the dialogue, related that the Rebbe was confident that some great good would come out of Netanyahu’s political trials.

“It really pains me, as a friend, as a brother, as a close friend, to see how people constantly spill Netanyahu’s blood,” Rabbi Schneerson confided to Nachshon. “But I have a surprise for you, he’s going to come out of it, and he’ll stand tall, on G-d’s side.

He has a promise from the Rebbe, and he’s going to make it through this. We’ve seen it happen up to now, and that’s how it’s going to be now as well.

He will make it through this, and he will continue, and I hope he’ll be able to hand his keys over to Moshiach (the Messiah), and we’ll have the complete and true Redemption.”

The Lubavitch Rebbe was not the only prominent tzaddik (righteous man) with high expectations for Netanyahu. Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri, one of the most influential Sephardic spiritual leaders of the century who passed away in 2006 at the age of 106, met with Netanyahu in 1997 during his first term as prime minister.

Rabbi Kaduri whispered a long message into the politicians ear. Rabbi Shmuel Shmueli, a follower of Rabbi Kaduri, revealed that Kaduri had always maintained that Netanyahu would serve a very long time and after his term in office, the Messiah would arrive.

Before his death, Kaduri had said that he expected the the Jewish Messiah, to arrive soon, and that he had met him a year earlier.

In May, Breaking Israel News reported the opinion of Rabbi Levi Sudri, noted the many parallels between the current prime minister and Jonathan, the son of Biblical King Saul. Sudri suggested that Netanyahu is serving the function of Moshiach ben Yosef (Messiah from the house of Joseph) the first half of the two stage Messianic process.

Moshiach ben Yosef is a practical, mundane process that includes the ingathering of the exiles and building up of the Land of Israel. The second stage, Moshiach Ben David (Messiah from the house of David) is a miraculous process which includes the reestablishment of the Davidic Dynasty and the completion of the Third Temple.

Rabbi Sudri explained that as the reincarnation of Jonathan and the manifestation of Moshiach ben Yosef, Netanyahu is paving the way for the more transcendent Moshiach ben David who will immediately follow.

“It is very clear that we see in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he is fulfilling his destiny as Moshiach ben Yosef , that is to say, the reincarnation of Jonathan,” Rabbi Sudri told Breaking Israel News at the time. “The name ‘Netanyahu’ (נתניהו) is composed of the same letters as the name, “Jonathan (יהונתן).”

This sentiment was repeated by Rabbi Moshe Ben Tov, known for his ability to perceive the past and present of people by gazing at the mezuzah on their door. After attaching a mezuzah in the prime minister’s office, Rabbi Ben Tov made a remarkable statement to the prime minister.

“It is very important that your love of Israel continue until the Moshiach comes because you are going stay in office and are going to meet him,” Rabbi Ben Tov said to Netanyahu. “You are the one who will give him the keys to this office.”

Temple will be rebuilt?

Nymous, the RCC when writing Trent in the areas regarding Justification rejected the Protestant view for 1 simple reason.
They hold JBF means “make righteous” rather than “reckon rightous” just like all false religions and various spiritualities.

Interesting Spring coming up.

We’ll see if the mystical Jews’ portrayal of Netanyahu as reincarnation of Jonathan, the forerunner of Davidic Messiah (paralleling John the Baptist as reincarnation of Elijah), will hand the Keys to Messiah.

The plot thickens as Netanyahu indictment could precede April 9 elections.

“Just as Jonathan fought the Amalekites before David, in the end-of-days it will be the function of *Moshiach ben Yosef* or the reincarnation of Jonathan, to battle Amalek before Moshiach ben David, Rabbi Sudri said.

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“Netanyahu is fulfilling this role by battling the enemies of Israel.

“When this battle is complete, he will pass the scepter to Moshiach ben David.”

Have to wonder if a war will intervene here…just guessing…

US is bombing Syrian Army.

Netanyahu facing indictment before April elections.

Trump under Mueller pressure over his son and son-in-law, and personally.

POTUS painted in a corner over the Wall. (Or maybe it’s strategy—he’s threatened to use Executive Order.)

Hezbollah leader:

"if the whole world meets to get us out of Syria, they won’t be able to do so.”

Etc., etc.

Noahide Laws are interesting to explore.

Adventists walk the razor’s edge.

… return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws
—US Public Law No: 102-14

Sponsor:
Rep. Michel, Robert H. [R-IL-18] (Introduced 01/31/1991)
Committees: House - Post Office and Civil Service
Latest Action: 03/20/1991 Became Public Law No: 102-14.

H.J.Res.104
One Hundred Second Congress of the United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday, the third day of January,
one thousand nine hundred and ninety-one

Joint Resolution

To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.’.

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe’, this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of ‘education and giving’, the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.’.

The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-joint-resolution/104/text

Noahide Laws:

The Seven Laws of Noah, also referred to as the Noahide Laws or the Noachide Laws, are a set of imperatives which, according to the Talmud, were given by God as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah” – that is, all of humanity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

John Hagee: “Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah.”

John Hagee offered prayer at dedication of US Embassy at Jerusalem, and ended with shouted Hallelujahs:

GYC youth, only God can help you.

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February 4, 2019: Pope Francis signs peace declaration on ‘Human Fraternity’ with Grand Imam.

Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs: 50th anniversary of "Nostra Aetate"

“Nostra Aetate” was promulgated by Pope Paul VI on October 28, 1965 - exactly 50 years ago. Among others, it exonerated the Jewish people of the collective blame of Jesus’ death - one of the main sources of religious anti-Semitism throughout history.

Pope Francis (October 28, 2015): The Council, with the Declaration Nostra Aetate, has indicated the way: “yes” to rediscovering Christianity’s Jewish roots; “no” to every form of anti-Semitism and blame for every wrong, discrimination and persecution deriving from it.​

https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/IsraelExperience/Religion/Pages/50th-anniversary-of-Nostra-Aetate-28-Oct-2015.aspx

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

Who can possibly disagree with those stated values?

I can’t.

Sure seems like everything about the end times is revolving around Israel/Jerusalem. The convergence.

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I agree, Paul, but did you forget…the Pope?