How Long, Oh Lord? Remembering Charlottesville

Phil, just keep focusing on the issues, as you have been doing so far. Do not be tempted to fight those who are attacking you as a person. We know what they are doing and there’s no point in getting personal with them. We don’t even know who they are.

Post your points freely, don’t be intimidated by people screaming loudly at you. Just ignore those who are unable to talk about issues without attacking you personally. You have good support here.



Did you see the posted video of Trump visiting the hospital in El Paso, where the victims had said they didn’t want to see him? I did. He took the time during this visit to chat with medical staff about how he had given a speech in El Paso a few months ago, how big the crowd size was, and how Beto only had 400 people in a parking lot…IOW, his crowd size was dwarfed by Trump’s.

This man, the supposed leader of this country and the free world, took the time that should have been spent focusing on comforting victims in their pain, and once again, made it all about himself! Not one single moment should have been spent on calling attention to himself or partisan comparisons. But what can we expect from a pathological narcissist, who has a long established pattern of this type of behavior, well before he was ever in office? It’s one thing for him to act this way as a reality show host. As POTUS, it’s simply sickening.

How is it that everyone doesn’t see this? How does it not matter in evaluating him as a true leader?




Something is wrong with America, and I am puzzled seeing nominal Christians supporting immorality, lack of decency, and corruption. Trump is indeed changing America. Unbelievable.


George, we are dealing with abject ignorance of the first order. I just watched a twenty-five minute and forty-nine second video produced by Jerrod Boling of Amazing Facts, which sets forth his response to the recent mass shootings. We are told that the cause of the mass shootings is……… video games. We see one Fox News clip after another that blames the mass shootings on video games. Jerrod stresses over and over again that gun laws will not work. And then we see Doug Batchelor blame the mass shootings on the removal of the Ten Commandments from the public school classroom, the teaching of evolution, and abortion.

Not one mention is made of white nationalism, which is the cause of many mass shootings in the United States and throughout the world, including the El Paso mass shooting as per the political manifesto written by the shooter. Instead we are told that guns are not the cause, apparently white nationalism is not the cause, but the blames lies with video games, the removal of the Ten Commandments from the public school classroom, the teaching of evolution, and abortion.

[In fairness, I just saw a nine minute and forty-five second video produced by Amazing Facts entitled Mass Shootings and Racism, in which Batchelor briefly talks about racism as a cause while also talking about other alleged causes. I think the Boling video does not represent Batchelor’s views in the best light. Therefore, I think the charitable thing to do is to attribute Boling’s video to Boling and not to Batchelor or to Amazing Facts, notwithstanding that Boling works for Amazing Facts.].


Phil, from your post I selected three “amazing facts” that called my attention.

  1. Ignorance is certainly a major factor acting in this issue. But still, there must be other factor(s) acting making so many people in the country to deny the facts they see. I don’t believe they are blind, they just react to the facts in a strange, sometimes deranged way. For example, when they SEE Trump lying during his rallies and they are in the crowd applauding him for that… their minds must be possessed.
    According to Merrian-Webster, " Possessed definition is: influenced or controlled by something (such as an evil spirit, a passion, or an idea).

  2. Gun laws will not work. Of course not…, the same way the ‘don’t work’ in many other countries like Australia for example, and England, and… you name it. America must indeed be a very different country… where the laws don’t work. Of course, there is the NRA here, that bribes corrupt politicians!!! I bet even blind people can see this clearly! :wink:

  3. Batchelor, like many other fanatics, instead of helping to defuse the use of firearms to commit mass shootings, blames the crime not on the real criminals (the perpetrators and their enablers) but on people and facts that are completely unrelated to the events. What’s next on their fanatic and deplorable agenda, the gays are to be blamed for the shootings?

This kind of “fanatic culture” keeps people in a bubble that I call “fantasyland.” This while people are being killed, lies are being spread out, the rich now collecting tax benefits - but not those who really need it- , farmers being GIVEN taxpayers’ money due to the DT’s theory collapse, children being treated worse than animals, our worst enemy (Putin) being treated as a special friend in a very secretive way, the nobility of the WH being desecrated, etc. All with the loud applause of people who should know better… :thinking:

Ignorance is indeed powerful!!! :astonished: :open_mouth:


Don be fooled:


VOTE, please VOTE!
Help to decrease the chances for another Charlottesville, El Paso, Dayton, and so (too) many other mass killings. Do your part as a citizen, as a parent, as a responsible person, as a patriot, as human being, as a Christian. VOTE!

And now, for those who applaud and fiercely defend Trump’s economy…

I always said it just a matter of time, and the Trump’s tactics will disgrace the popular economy. Well, it seems that the time is coming, or had it already come? :thinking:

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Unfortunately @GeorgeTichy history shows us that the “bomb” doesn’t go off until six months to two years after the signs in the yield curve. This is a poisoned chalice for whoever gets elected in 2020.

Well Robert you know how it works. If Trump is re-elected he will blame Obama when the bomb explodes. If someone else is elected, then Trump will say, “See? I was doing great and now, look at what you got?” Every bandit always poses as being the good guy.

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