Integrity in Scriptural Interpretation: An Interview with Edward W. H. Vick

(Spectrumbot) #1

Within Adventism, no topic matters more than the one Edward W. H. Vick addressed in his 2011 book, From Inspiration to Understanding: Reading the Bible Seriously and Faithfully (available in paperback or on Kindle). Vick, who taught many years at Canadian Union College and now resides in Nottingham, England, earned degrees in philosophy and theology from three British universities, including Oxford, and took his doctorate in systematic theology at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee. During the 1960s he taught at the Seventh-day Adventist Theological Seminary at Andrews University. He has written a dozen or so books on a wide range of theological topics. The following interview, conducted by Charles Scriven, chair of the Adventist Forum Board, addresses themes from the afore mentioned reflection on the Christian doctrine of Scripture.

Question: The title of your book on Scripture reflects one of its main themes, namely, that the metaphor of “inspiration” is a misleading way to discuss the status and importance of the Bible. Why is that so?

Answer: Let me say, to begin, that I worked from two guiding principles. I first asked what happens with the Bible in the Christian community. What does the church do with Scripture? What is its practice? This requires faithfully reporting on how, in worship, devotion, interpretation and evaluation, the church actually approaches and treats Scripture. The second principle was that of explaining the church’s practice, or of putting the practice, so to speak, into theory. This means asking how the church itself has explained the status of Scripture, and seeing whether that explanation is consistent with what it actually does.

We notice at once that a certain process of interpretation determines how the Bible is read. Certain principles of interpretation become standardized and form a tradition for understanding the Bible. That hermeneutic tradition declares that the Bible is to be taken as the guide for doctrine and for practice. One result is a manifest concern for the authority of Scripture.

So now the question comes to mind: How is it that the Bible came to have the authority it has in the church?

Well, we must talk about the story of its composition, of its sources and how they were put together. How did what were at first oral traditions come to be put into writing, when, and why? What process, furthermore, governed how some written documents, but not all that were available, became part of the sixty-six-book collection we think of as the biblical canon? Finally, why does the contemporary Christian accept the decision made long ago about which books should be left in or left out?

The traditional defense of the Bible’s authority brings me to the title of the book, From Inspiration to Understanding. Many have said, and still say, “The Bible has authority because it is inspired.” That is the basic issue the book examines.

And this brings us back to my question: Why do you think the metaphor of “inspiration” is a misleading way to get at the status and importance of the Bible?

I said that we must first consider the practice of the church, then form a conclusion as to what it means. If the text of Scripture were lost or unread, it would have no authority. “Inspiration” is a relational term. Human agents are inspired. And if people say that a piece of writing is inspired, they mean that what someone wrote affects them in a certain way, and perhaps also that it had its origin in a certain way. But that judgment is subjective. We cannot say that the document itself, apart from reader reaction to it, is “inspired.” The Bible has authority because it has influence, not just because someone pronounces it “inspired.”

Again, how does the Bible come to have its authority, its influence in the life of the church?

The Bible is testimony concerning what God has done. Scripture bears witness to claims concerning God’s revelation in the story of the Hebrews and of Jesus; and of the acceptance, by the first Christians, of Jesus as the Christ. These are historical claims.

But Christians make another kind of claim, based on later and contemporary Christian experience. They recognize claims about the revelation of God in Jesus Christ as authentic because, in reading Scripture, they experience God’s revelation and find it a genuine reality just as the earliest Christians did. They testify to that reality knowing it is not amenable to proof.

Yes! The revelation to which Scripture testifies cannot be demonstrated.

A theologian who was a chaplain in the army remarked that he constantly met soldiers who told him they could not have faith because as they read Scripture they could not identify with the ancient understanding of the universe that provided the context for the writings. So he answered by distinguishing between the framework, or worldview, in which a message is placed, and the essence of the message itself. You can hold on to that essence without supposing the worldview, as the ancient writers did, that the earth is flat, or that the sun moves across the arch of heaven.

So the Bible, the written word, is not identical with the divine revelation to which it bears witness.

Just think of Joshua, who demanded that the sun stand still. Astronomers today would have a lot to teach him. But again, what is the text of Scripture actually supposed to do? The point, Christians say, is that when the Bible is read it becomes the medium of a very particular event, or experience: the revelation of God through the influence of the risen Christ. And that is what matters. The words are inert and lifeless apart from the experience; they come alive when they mediate knowledge of a living reality.

To exert influence, the Bible must be read, it must be interpreted. But the church and its members are human and prone to error, so what really assures the authenticity of the Christian message?

Readers can approach the Bible devotionally, reading it for comfort, spiritual uplift, assurance, a relationship with Christ. They can also approach it with the purpose of establishing doctrine within a particular context, or church community. As the community develops, new questions arise, new concepts emerge, and new decisions have to be made. The text itself is established by means of skillful scholarship. It’s “there.” From such a text the church derives its doctrines. Then these doctrines come to be defined as orthodox, or what the church’s administration requires that you believe. And when questions arise, church leaders must defend their method of interpretation. They must explain how the doctrine was derived from the text. Please note that I am describing church practice. From what the church does we can make firm propositions about the position and status of Scripture. And we don’t have to speak of “inspiration” in order to achieve this result.

Yes, but what about authenticity? How can we assure, or at least endorse, the integrity of effort toward the establishment of doctrine?

Doctrine is derived from particular passages of Scripture. First there is selection of texts considered relevant. Then, when one or more passages have been interpreted doctrinally, the astonishing claim is made that this is “what the Bible teaches.” Such claims are sometimes made even when different passages from other parts of Scripture present contrary positions. Closed definitions of acceptable doctrine can restrict understanding by unduly confining the message of Scripture. An example is when the primary focus confines attention to certain selected texts that Adventists have focused on in a few favorite apocalyptic passages.

Say more about the Adventist tradition of prophetic interpretation.

Our forebears retained certain key features of prophetic interpretation they inherited from the Millerite movement. Miller saw all Scripture as on a level. He could draw proof texts from any part of it and place them in his system. He saw himself as a man of the concordance. He even used the term “promiscuous” of his method.

Following the Great Disappointment, believers who had expected the end of the world and their translation into “heaven” had to come to terms with their situation. Could anything remain of their beliefs? One group seized upon a new speculation from Hiram Edson. According to him, the expected cleansing of the sanctuary was happening in heaven, not on earth as Miller had thought. That would take time. The destruction of the earth would come later, in its turn. The idea that Jesus was now a priest in a heavenly sanctuary meant that they had time to reassess, and rebuild. Their hope in the Advent could be renewed. They were reassured. These early Adventists had to admit their dating error, or their hermeneutic error, or both. They admitted neither, but instead re-interpreted the reference of the key terms in their key text, Daniel 8:14. They thus decided to continue employing the same method of interpretation that had produced the Great Disappointment.

Over time, how has all this affected the way Adventists deal with the Bible?

Here are some rules of interpretation that have become accepted:

1) In developing doctrine from the text of Scripture, do not ask questions like the following: date of composition of the books, how the final text was compiled into “books,” what the relation is between passages which are duplicated within the books, how different versions of events are found in the individual books, etc.

2) Treat all passages of Scripture as of equal value as sources of doctrine.

3) Accept the text as it stands, treating passages from any biblical book as equivalent in value to any other. Any chosen passage has an equal status with any other chosen passage, and all can be used as “proof texts.”

4) Attempt, where appropriate, to coordinate the text of Scripture with future events and so make predictions about that future, even specifying dates or periods of time in relation to those future events. This became a dominating concern. Adventists have, uniquely, the God-given mission to foretell the future of the world and to characterize God’s coming judgment.

In the course of all this, some themes, like that of the sanctuary, have taken on a shape quite different from what the original text suggests. What are some of your constructive suggestions for us as we struggle toward greater integrity in our interpretation of the Bible?

1) Let’s learn to show some humility in asserting our claims. That shows up in being willing to discuss, and if need be, revise them.

2) Let’s recognize the importance of considering talks and writing, by competent people, that develop ideas and methods that are new to us, or have even been overlooked or rejected. This will lead to honest and sincere discussion.

3) Let’s realize that we cannot retain all the results of the conversations that took place during the immediate post-Disappointment period.

4) Let’s allow that Scriptures consist of very diverse contents. Each of these requires its appropriate understanding. The apocalyptic elements are important, but cannot be the single, or even the primary, model for understanding the divine revelation.

5) Where discernment is required (and when is it not?) let’s be sure to appoint committee members who have some competence in their knowledge of Greek, in the history of the text and in the story of its acceptance as Scripture, some awareness of Hebrew and relevant historical contexts.

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(Harry Elliott) #2

What an astonishingly perceptive analysis of our disdain for integrity. We impute authority to our Statement of Fundamental Beliefs above truth. Desmond Ford painstakingly identified an exhaustive list of objective flaws in our sanctuary doctrine, expecting an open, sincere–in other words, collegial–discussion with his peers. Instead he was stabbed in the back. If he had been wrong, the discussion would have happened. But he wasn’t wrong, so he was slandered and double-crossed.

The first list of rules of interpretation is where we are. The second list is where we should be. I have zero confidence in such a reformation, but I take some comfort in Edward Vick’s insight.

(Steve Mga) #3

ONLY the kindle is on Amazon.
WHO sells the paperback???

Today, when I went to pick up my friend at Synagogue they were in process of having lunch. I sat with
a group at the Rabbi’s table.
He brought up the topic of the BOOK OF JOSHUA. This is the next tale after Deut. the 5th book of the
He brought up the Question – WHY did they NOT include Joshua in the 5 Books, and make it 6 Books
instead. Since Joshua actually is the culmination of the Journey and the Receiving of the Promise
made to Abraham and Moses.
It was ALL in the Interpretation of the Men who decided on the Most Important Pieces of Jewish
Writings. Apparently Joshua was low in that Importance even though it is the Victory book.
Over 3000 years later, we STILL do NOT consider it an Important work.

(Johnny Carson) #4

Very interesting interview. Fascinating yet simple concepts. Thank you.


Here is a common argument that Satan has used throughout history; leave the interpretation of scripture to committees, where we can assemble the most “learned”, with the most prestigious degrees, from the most honored universities of the world, and then let the rest of us just go along with whatever they recommend. Because, how can a poor soul, like me, be expected to understand what is inspired or not. So it went in Jesus time, how it worked through Papel suppression, and how it is successfully used in our time. The #5 section, last statement of the article, should concern any reader as to who they turn their Biblical beliefs over to.

(Frankmer7) #6

I don’t take this as leaving ones brain on the shelf and leaving the interpretation of Scripture to committees. What I do see is a call for employing those who are so gifted, and who have spent their lives in the necessary disciplines that undergird responsible biblical interpretation, as a help for all of us, especially when there are issues and understandings that are called into question and are contentious.

The Adventist church administration has a history of doing just the opposite, marginalizing and disregarding their scholars, especially if what they conclude flies in the face of received tradition and understanding. This just happened over the issue of WO. The TOSC conclusions were ignored by the president of the GC, and the church at large…as it has always been on this issue. We thus have a mess on our hands not based on responsible handling of the biblical text, but because of cultural differences and tradition baptized as biblical truth.

But hey, why listen to those who are educated in such things? The popular opinion is that zealous ignorance is where the Spirit works rather than with those who are trained. Unfortunately, anti-intellectualism is part of the Adventist DNA, and is embedded in the American cultural landscape.

The world influences the church in ways we don’t anticipate.



(Herold Weiss) #7

Thank you Charles for this very illuminating, clear and simple exploration of the wisdom to be found in Ted Vick. His dismissal from the Seminary faculty in the witch hunt initiated by Robert Pierson, then GC president, was an unforgivable tragic event in the history of the Seminary. After that injustice, Vick was marginalized and ignored, much to the detriment of the Adventist community. It is a special grace to have his wisdom made available and his many books promoted for the benefit of us all.


For many quarters now, the ADULT TEACHERS SABBATH SCHOOL BIBLE STUDY GUIDE* has given advice that addresses some of the issues raised by Edward Vick. The relevant advice reads:
" Present learners with the biblical information they need to understand the central concept of the lesson. (Such information could include facts about the people; the setting; cultural, historical, and or geographical details; the plot or what’s happening; and conflicts or tension of the texts you are studying." (* 2018, p.4)

(Ikswezdyr) #12

I see the truth somewhere in between the two extremes. We certainly do need scholars who know the ancient languages. But they are also subject to the interpretations they have been influenced by through education, other scholars, etc. On the other hand many in the pew will latch on to ideas that have little basis in fact and can come more from what someone else said than personal study. Surely God knew all His people would not be ancient language scholars. I still like the term “inspiration” even though the writer makes many excellent points. I would ask though can’t some people living today also be “inspired” but not on the biblical level?

(Ikswezdyr) #13

I would suggest that doctrine-centered churches put more emphases on whether a biblical event actually happened as stated than what it means. It’s meaning is what matters the most. This does not mean we don’t study it in-depth but ask why it is there. What principle does it teach that is valid for today while taking into consideration its setting in history? This also does not mean believing it didn’t happen, but putting the emphasis where it is needed. Christ is the central picture of the Bible, and all metaphors, symbols, doctrines are the frame. Personal spirituality is a higher goal than great knowledge and perfect literal verbal belief…

(Larry Boshell) #14

The process of collecting the materials, the books that became the Bible, has serious, undermining, unaddressed ramifications by, Dr. Vick.

From innumerable manuscripts written over a large span of time that became the Bible each had a singular purpose limited to its time-frame, never with the intent of representing a collection of “Gods word.” The selection was made by human consensus with a specific opinion based criteria with an apologetic purpose in mind. So the value of it is imputed not intrinsic (Dr. Vick seems to also be saying). There is no authority levied by any of it. The nuggets of belief mined from it are evidence of human search for God, not a revelation from any deity. So one interpretation is as good as another. Each interpreter is empowered to act as if their version is true.