Kenyan Adventist Thanks God for Winning Mega Jackpot and More News

Kenyan Adventist Thanks God for Winning Mega Jackpot

El Aden Wambita, 35-year-old Kenyan Adventist, won the Sportspesa Gfrand Jackpot worth Ksh. 12,499,283 [$84,000]. Wambita, a student at the Langata-based Amref University, said he was delighted to win the elusive mega Jackpot, according to Fred Maingi reporting for The Daily Whistle.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://spectrummagazine.org/news/2023/kenyan-adventist-thanks-god-winning-mega-jackpot-and-more-news
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Hmmm, so much to process here:

  1. Mega Jackpot Winner - and here I sit with my Mega Millions ticket, but the drawing was last night (after sundown) so I have to wait until tonight (after sundown) to check my numbers. Question is, will the African Conference office accept his 10% tithe donation from his GAMBLING winnings? Is this not dirty money? Just asking.
  2. Robots "Teaching " the Bible - don’t robots just collect and retain information which is fed into them? They don’t Trust or Distrust the information being fed, even in the metaverse. That said, a robot may compute information about say, about the Investigative Judgement, but reject it as “does not compute”.
  3. PUC’s flora and fauna: Go PUC! I love my college.
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Am I missing something? Isn’t gambling a sin?

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Maybe not, or at least not if you pay tithe on the increase!

:wink:

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No, because he had “prayed” about it. :wink:

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In their song “Far Away Eyes”, The Stones sang about how lucky it is to be a believer back in the 70’s:

I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield Listening to gospel music on the local radio station And the preacher said, “You know you always have the Lord by your side” And I was so pleased to be informed of this that I ran Twenty red lights in his honor Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord

:wink:

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Here is the SDA stance…

For people not wanting to read the whole thing…the last sentence states:

“The Seventh-day Adventist Church rejects gambling as defined above and will not solicit nor accept funding that is clearly derived from gambling.”

Not sure I really believe that. I’m guessing there are ways of giving money that can be concealed or discreet, if need be. I wouldn’t be surprised it some SDA officials aren’t already thinking about how to make it happen.

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I suppose ponying up 10% or more based on the (likely fake) “prosperity” stories the conference publishes and distributes for the weekly offering/“stewardship” where tithers were “blessed” with success in business is a form of gambling.

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I remember the church gambled with Davenport a few years back

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Isn’t giving away millions of copies of GoC a bit of a gamble?

Or is that just “casting your bread on the water”?

Either way, seems like you gotta sign up a bunch of tithe payers to make that bet payoff….

:wink:

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I was at the GC the other day and I saw these new slot machines in the reception area:

Apparently people give a lot more using the machines because they have the possibility of getting something worthwhile back. So, the GC is now recommending that all churches and conference buildings install them.

I hear the End of Days slot is the most popular, and that visitors from the left coast keep asking where the Adam and Steve slot is - and also the David and Jonathan one.

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Uh, Tim, are you sure the sign over the door before you went in didn’t say something about “dispensary” or “Dr. Green’s THC Emporium”?!?!

I mean I understand there is a progressive wing in SDA-ism now that wasn’t there when I was a kid, or if it did exist, no one told me about it.

But I think you might have accidentally ended up at one of those places in Cali whose motto is “Don’t Hesitate! Medicate!” and may have been experiencing what Father Guido Sarducci would have referred to as a “contact high”……

:wink:

BTW, here’s a clip in which the good reverend explains how a person actually “pays” for his sins:

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Many moons ago (actually several decades), as a lad I was at campmeeting, and with nothing better to do, I went into the bookstore. On the shelf was a thin book attempting to address various “hot” topics including lotteries.

The author (I forget his name) argued in favour of the official SDA position (no surprise - he was on church payroll) and then addressed some of the objections.

One objection to the gambling prohibition was “but I only buy lottery tickets with my spare money”. The author’s response was “when the ‘work’ remains unfinished, does any believer really have any spare money?” This utter nonsense didn’t set off alarm bells in my adolescent mind, but the memory was filed away for retrieval a couple decades later.

On one hand there is a certain logic to it - if one truly believes that we are in the “last days”, that the SDA church is the “remnant church”, that salvation is dependent upon correctly believing and observing certain teachings like the “sabbath”, that spreading the SDA message not only determines the timing of the second coming, but affects the eternal destinies of those with whom we are in contact, then not only should ever spare moment and every spare dime be devoted to the “work”, but those engaged in the “work” (if they truly believe it and aren’t clergymen for the sake of having a paying career), ought to live on subsistence wages - so that every spare dime beyond what they absolutely “need”, is devoted to the “work”. As an aside, I wonder if the author of this tome donated his royalties to the “work”, or if maybe he used “spare” money for a vacation, a dinner, or tickets to a ball game.

Anyway, I’ll be spending $3 (Canadian) for a Wednesday night’s lottery draw - since I never win, it’s essentially a donation to the general revenues of the province of Quebec, but maybe I’ll win - I have a 1-in-14 million chance (which is better chances than the “sunday law” being enacted). I think I’ll also put down a couple hours work worth on the Canadiens de Montreal to win the Stanley Cup. Since our team isn’t great, we’re currently at +25000, and a $1000 wager will yield a quarter million. Or maybe I’ll bet on NCAA college football. Hockey (played mostly by secular Canadian, European and north US boys) doesn’t have much of a tradition of praying for goals and victory, so I doubt God takes much of an interest in hockey. But with all the praying going on before football games and after touchdowns, certainly achieving correct outcomes of the football games are a major priority for the deities, and therefore maybe betting on college football is just another way of doing the Lord’s work - especially if we bet on God-fearing schools like Texas, Alabama or Georgia, and not those secular left-coast teams like Washington, UCLA or Stanford.

But no worries, if I win back any of my spare money, I won’t sully the conference coffers with any ill-gotten gains.

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In my experience, they wouldn’t look a gift horse-or “loonie”-in the mouth!

:wink:

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Wasn’t “casting lots” a form of gambling?

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In a way, but it was also used as a form of divination in the bible. Also, the rolling of sheep’s knuckles - basically dice.

The bible rather overtly teaches that we can understand God’s will using such techniques.

And you know, per his highness Ted we need to read it literally, and take everything it says as literal truth.

So, where do we purchase our holy lot casting kits, or holy dice? I know the Vatican has a store, but that seems like a long way to go, and I don’t even know if they have such things in stock. Maybe they have them at the G.C.? Or Amazon?

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Maybe they should cast lots at the GC to appoint the next president. It certainly would be more biblical than voting.

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Based on what I’ve seen, I don’t see how casting lots could be any worse than the “money talks”, ostensibly democratic results we’ve achieved recently….

Alternatively, we could go with Arthur C. Clark’s suggestion that anyone who declares himself a candidate for any political office is immediately disqualified on the grounds wanting the job proves he is unfit for that office.

:wink:

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So, if we pray we can buy a lotto ticket? But…to think that God had something to do with his “win” is where it really falls apart.

I understand that some SDA member in, I think, Michigan, won a big lottery amount. Millions I think, tried to pay tithe and the church wouldn’t accept it. You have to ask yourself, since the church wouldn’t accept the tithe, does that make the person both a gambling sinner as well as a non-tithe paying sinner…or as some Adventists would say “they robbed God”? And the church, who wouldn’t accept the tithe, are they non-forgiving judgmental individuals or is it institutional judgmental-ness?

Thank goodness that God truly doesn’t work this way.

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I can only hope that the church does not accept anything from his “win”…but I would not be surprised if they did.

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