“Make America Great Again”: Will the Seventh-day Adventist Church in America Survive the Storm?

It’s a global village now.

The term “global village” was invented when the global reality was much less apparent. Today, I can read the The New York Times in real time in Oslo and Ottawa and Osaka just as easily as in the city of its publication. CNN brings the world to a global audience of viewers twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. I have digital subscriptions to The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, and a Norwegian newspaper, and I sometimes read German or British newspapers online. This makes me an exception: newspapers and magazines compete for a shrinking audience. Visual news, by contrast, like CNN or Fox, is ubiquitous. We cannot avoid them even if we try.

And the subject — in print or on the television screen? There is more than one, but the main subject is President Donald J. Trump. He is the new chief in the global village; he attracts an audience; he keeps it up, tweet after tireless tweet. For the last four years, in outlets like CNN or Fox, there has not been one twenty-four-hour news cycle that failed to mention candidate Trump and later President Trump. Indeed, for the last four years, there has hardly been a twenty-four-hour news cycle when he was not the main subject.

I do not plan to engage this subject broadly. My focus will be narrow, announced in the headline. “Will the Seventh-day Adventist Church in America Survive the Storm?”

Why do I ask the question, why do I pose it as a matter of survival, and why do I ask it now?

I have wondered about the impact of the political climate on the church on many occasions. A broad approach to my question would not be a waste of time, thinking particularly about the connection between the Sabbath and care for the world or the social conscience of the seventh day.[1] Here, my focus will be narrow; it will have one issue only. While some issues can be discussed dispassionately as matters belonging to gray zones, my concern cannot be discussed dispassionately, and it does not belong to a zone where there are varying shades of gray. Some things are black or white. This is one of those things.

On October 10, 2019, the President of the United States of America traveled to Minneapolis to give a speech. The stands were filled with people, twenty thousand in all. Many were dressed in the colors signifying support for the president’s aspiration to “Make America Great Again.” The president’s speech lasted one hour and thirty minutes. About one hour into the speech, the president turned to talk about the Somali-born Congresswoman Ilhan Omar and the immigration and refugee resettlement programs that brought many Somalis to Minnesota.[2]

Donald Trump: (54:16) So in desperate attempt to attack our movement. Nancy and Chuck, two beauties, have given control of the Democrat party entirely over to the radical left, including Minnesota’s own representative Ilhan Omar. I know you people. I know you people. I know the people of Minnesota, and I want to tell you, and I also, at the same time, it’s both a question and a statement, how’d the hell did that ever happen? How did it happen? How did it happen? Congresswoman Omar is an America-hating socialist.

Donald Trump: (01:21:05) Thank you very much. Thank you. Great people. Thank you. What a group. I think your very weak mayor made a mistake when he took them on. As you know, for many years, leaders in Washington brought large numbers of refugees to your state from Somalia without considering the impact on schools and communities and taxpayers. I promised you that as president, I would give local communities a greater say in refugee policy, and put in place enhanced vetting and responsible immigration controls.

Donald Trump: (01:22:13) And I’ve done that. Since coming into office, I have reduced refugee resettlement by 85%, and as you know, maybe especially in Minnesota, I kept another promise. I issued an executive action, making clear that no refugees will be resettled in any city or any state without the express written consent of that city or that state. So speak to your mayor. You should be able to decide what is best for your own cities and for your own neighborhoods, and that’s what you have the right to do right now.

Donald Trump: (01:23:12) If Democrats were ever to seize power, they would open the floodgates to unvetted, uncontrolled migration at levels you have never seen before. Do you think you have it bad now? You would never have seen anything like what they want to do. But in the Trump administration, we will always protect American families first, and that has not been done in Minnesota.

What is the problem? The president is speaking about foreign-born generally non-White people who are already in the country, many of them by now American citizens, including Ilhan Omar. The speech was given in her district, in the same area where some fifty thousand Somali refugees are settled. They came there, the refugees have said, because they were well received and felt safe. And now? The President of the United States of America tracks them down in their neighborhood. He vilified one of them by name, twisting things she has said in the most negative manner. He accused her for minimizing the September 11 tragedy, charged to her “a history of launching virulent anti-Semitic screeds” before delving into her marital history. At the mention of “Somalis,” the president’s mostly white crowd broke out in boos — “in effect jeering their neighbors,” as one person present put it.

In better days, Ilhan Omar would be proof that America is a great country, the greatest there is. How she, a Somali-born refugee found a home in the United States, how she got an education, how she overcame obstacles to make herself into a person who exemplifies the best there is of diversity and opportunity in the U.S. In the president’s world, however, Omar is repeatedly thrashed. She has become one of the members of Congress targeted by the Trump-inspired chant, “Send her back!”

Let us leave Omar out, if need be, for the conversation to proceed without allowing allegations about her to distract us. Let us not leave out the other more than fifty thousand refugees of Somali descent now living in Minnesota. The president had a special line for the mayor of Minneapolis, saying that he showed weakness when he took the refugees in. (33:57) “Minneapolis, Minneapolis, you’ve got a rotten man. You’ve got to change your mayor. You’ve got a bad mayor. You’ve got a bad mayor.” And now the Somali refugees, who fled one of the most broken countries in the world. They are there, in Minnesota, on October 10 the target of a viscerally hostile speech by the president of their new homeland.

Others are there, too. I am now referring to the people in the stands. Let the president do the vilification of the Somalis by himself. It is not necessary to become his accomplice in disparaging a vulnerable group. It is not necessary to attend the rally. It is not necessary to cheer.

This is where the question of survival comes in. Will the Seventh-day Adventist Church in America survive this storm? Eighty percent of evangelical Christians support this man and his policies. Fifty percent of Catholic white males are said to support him. How high is the percentage among Seventh-day Adventists? Were Adventists in the audience in Minneapolis? Did Adventists cheer the part of the speech that singled out the refugees? One journal, secular, of course, had a fitting headline afterwards. “Trump’s Minneapolis Rally Was a Demonstration of the Moral Suicide Pact He’s Made with His Supporters.”[3] The author, Jack Holmes, the political editor of Esquire magazine, does not want to be in on the moral suicide pact.

This is a virulently racist tirade aimed at ginning up the worst instincts of the people in the crowd. It is not a coincidence Trump chose to come here, or to target a refugee community that is black and Muslim. This is how he thinks he can win reelection: by continuing to pull his base of support towards more vitriolic expressions of this vision of America as a country for and by white people; by scaring other constituencies away from speaking out; by using the Republican Party’s machinations to stop inconvenient voters from voting; by smearing his opponents as Just As Bad As Him, They Just Pretend to Be Prim and Proper; by soliciting foreign meddling that will benefit him in exchange for favors when he is reelected.

“I know you people. I know you people,” the president said as he began the part about the refugees. What does he know about them? Does he seek to unleash some hidden, inner hostility that resonates with his sentiment, knowing that it is there? What does he know? One of Adolf Hitler’s critics in the German Reichstag said before voices like his fell silent — before the Reichstag went into a twelve-year de facto hibernation — that Hitler had an uncanny ability to spot and stir to life a person’s “inner swine.” Surely, the talk about the Somali refugees in Minnesota, in public, before a cheering audience, some of whom are next-door neighbors to the Somalis, could be an example of inner swines cut loose from moral restraint.

Moral Suicide

In what sense does this qualify as moral suicide, a term that is well chosen? I will offer three reasons.

First is the biblical perspective. In the Old Testament, the refugee has special status as an object of God’s protection. Who will not be inspired and humbled by a walk-through of some of these texts? Their thrust is not only an obligation to treat refugees and immigrants with respect. It goes deeper than that. Believers are called to see themselves in the other person — to remember that we are in the same boat: what they are, we used to be. This should be easy to do for people in Minnesota. The ancestors of many in that state were not refugees but economic migrants from Scandinavia and Germany, but they came as aliens.

You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt (Exod. 22:21).

You shall not oppress a resident alien; you know the heart of an alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt (Exod. 23:9).

When an alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien (Lev. 19:33).

Does it count as oppression when the president of your adopted country seeks you out in your back yard, there to call your mayor “a rotten person” for letting you in, there to make you be his foil for a vision of America that uses disdain for you to inspire them to be his supporters? Does it count as oppression when the speaker clearly intends to outsource to his audience to change the terms of the alien’s existence?

The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God (Lev. 19:34).

You and the alien who resides with you shall have the same law and the same ordinance (Num. 15:16).

What is most impressive in these texts is the insistent, unprecedented, vociferous call to remember. Historical amnesia is a dangerous and ever-present risk. To counter the risk, Deuteronomy inscribes the memory of past oppression as a constituent of the believer’s present identity.

Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you; for this reason I lay this command upon you today (Deut. 15:15).

Remember that you were a slave in Egypt, and diligently observe these statutes (Deut. 16:12).

You shall not abhor any of the Edomites, for they are your kin. You shall not abhor any of the Egyptians, because you were an alien residing in their land (Deut. 23:7).

Remember that you were a slave in Egypt and the LORD your God redeemed you from there; therefore I command you to do this (Deut. 24:18).

There they are, the Edomites and the Egyptians. They are there, in the text, but they are here, too, in the neighborhood. Just look on the map to see how little has changed even though the world has expanded. Lucky ones, are they not, to have a verbal footprint left for them in the Bible, the people who are now coming from where the Edomites used to live (Syria, Iraq, Palestine) or from Egypt (close enough to Somalia to count).

It was part of the liturgy of these believers to rehearse their story over and over in assembly, to say the following out loud:

You shall make this response before the LORD your God: “A wandering Aramean was my ancestor; he went down into Egypt and lived there as an alien, few in number, and there he became a great nation, mighty and populous” (Deut. 26:5).

The wandering Aramean, of course, is Abraham. In the New Testament, he is the role model for believers in Jesus (Rom. 4:16). In one New Testament iteration, Abraham never ceases to be an itinerant. For such a person and for such an itinerant faith-identity, understanding and empathy for those on the outside will only be stronger.

By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to set out for a place that he was to receive as an inheritance; and he set out, not knowing where he was going. By faith he stayed for a time in the land he had been promised, as in a foreign land, living in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. For he looked forward to the city that has foundations, whose architect and builder is God (Heb. 11:8-10).

For here we have no lasting city, but we are looking for the city that is to come (Heb. 13:14).

For anyone working with refugees and seeing their plight first-hand, it helps to ponder such a faith identity. To be a migrant or a resident alien, as a believer, is not a stage left behind, a distant chapter to remember. It is a stage — even a state — of present existence.

Second, we have a historical reason not to be part of the moral collapse playing out with respect to refugees and resident aliens. Now as then, at issue is not refugee status only. It is also minority status, ethnic, racial, or religious. Two immense historical realities obligate and inform us, the history of slavery and the Holocaust. Fifteen million Africans were brought to the New World against their will (not all of them to the US); six million Jews were gassed and cremated in the Nazi era. Might it be possible to see in the face of the Somalis seeking entrance the face of Africans who were forced to come against their will? Now they come willingly, in a state of need. Is this a time to shut the doors — or ever to shut them? Is there not still an unpaid debt from us to them, “us” the enslavers of European descent and “them” the enslaved?

And the Holocaust? It was “Not Long Ago, Not Far Away,” as an exhibit now on display in New York puts it. What happened had a toxic rhetorical antecedent. I am not suggesting that something on that scale is in the making today. But I am saying that there is a family resemblance at the level of rhetoric. I do not envision that today’s rhetoric will become tomorrow’s genocide. But yesterday’s genocide makes today’s rhetoric indecent, dangerous, and unconscionable even if it is only rhetoric. For a Somali minority in the US to be disparaged by the nation’s president with a crowd of mostly white Americans cheering him on is immoral because of what happened “Not Far Away, Not Long Ago.” We cannot go near it again; we cannot cheer except to put our souls in the gravest peril. Think of it this way, too: he speaks that way not to show us what he is like but because he thinks he knows what we are like.

I find sobering support for the unfinished work history teaches us to do in the recent book by the philosopher I admire the most. Susan Neiman says that “I began life as a white girl in the segregated South, and I am likely to end it as a Jewish woman in Berlin.”[4] Her remarkable geographic, intellectual, and professional journey is as compelling as her message: the need for Vergangenheitsaufarbeitung, as they say it in German: the need for “working-off-the-past.” The spectacle in Minneapolis and other spectacles like it result, in Neiman’s story, “from America’s failure to confront its own history.”[5]

Third, we have a special Seventh-day Adventist reason not to condone, participate in, or in any way engage in the conduct on display in Minneapolis on October 10, 2019. This has to do with our history and self-understanding. Early Adventists saw themselves called to proclaim a message of everlasting good news or, as I propose to translate it, “an eternally valid message” (Rev. 14:6). The target audience is broadly specified in Revelation. The message is to be proclaimed “to those who live on the earth — to every nation and tribe and language and people” (Rev. 14:6). There are no favorites here, no national or ethnic or tribal preference. The first angel in Revelation takes the stage with an equal opportunity proposition with respect to “those who live on the earth.”

When Adventist pioneers contemplated the scope of this commission, they took comfort in how they saw Providence at work in the American experience. Human beings from “every nation and tribe and language and people” had come to the United States! The mission could be accomplished here, in the New World, because God had raised up a nation of migrants and immigrants, of refugees and fortune seekers, in the New World. It would not be necessary to go to them. God had brought them to us; God brought them here.

This vision has since undergone a much-needed correction. They did not all come here; it was necessary to go there to be faithful to the commission. But the early perception should not be abandoned without a trace. Seventh-day Adventists have a special reason to be welcoming to people from other nations and tribes. Not so long ago it was a settled Adventist conviction that God had brought them here as an element in God’s eschatological vision for the nations. God — not simply destitution or need or hope or opportunity.

It is a global village now. We are all in on this. “Immigrants and refugees are welcome in Minneapolis,” said Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey after the president’s visit. I am glad he did. According to the transcript, verbatim, people chanted, “Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years” even though the visitors had told them that they have “a rotten mayor.”

Moses wasn’t there, but he gave a different speech to his migrant congregation before they took possession of the Promised Land. Then, too, there was a big crowd. Then, too, there was a pact. It was not a moral suicide pact but a moral pact meant to bring security to the most vulnerable. “Cursed be anyone who deprives the alien, the orphan, and the widow of justice,” said Moses.

And the people, back then, what did they say?

“All the people shall say, ‘Amen!’” (Deut. 27:19)

Notes & References:

Sigve K. Tonstad is Research Professor of Biblical Interpretation at Loma Linda University.

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at http://spectrummagazine.org/node/9960

I’ve been asking this myself. Where is the outrage among Seventh Day Adventist when this administration expanded the rules of separating kids from their parents at the border? Where is the outrage about kids dying in custody, being thrown in cages, being lost in the system, being adopted out to other families after their parents are deported? All for no reason other than to serve as a deterrent to other poor and oppressed people coming here to seek our help. If we claim the right as Adventist do to refuse to abide by laws that violate our religious convictions. Then where is the outrage on this?

We seem only to save such a thing for not baking certain people cakes. Because being forced to bake someone a cake is a way bigger violation to our religious conscience then what’s going on with the fear and hate mongering against immigrants in our borders and asylum seekers at our borders right?

Here’s what I think. I think those of us who do not stand up now and push back against antichrist politics and laws now, will never do so. If you wait to the very end your character will be such that you will never stand up. Forget politic, forget political parties I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about scriptural inspired knowledge that we are to judge people/organizations/ etc by their fruits. What is the fruit of encouraging racism, xenophobia, and hatred? Is it the fruits of the spirit that come fourth from such activities? Or the fruits of this world? The answer is obvious for all to see.


Thank you for your much needed post. It’s not only in the US it’s everywhere.


Sadly, we can complain about Trump, but also need to seek to understand why so many Christians vote for him. I’m tempted to offer a hypothesis: that the Old Testament can easily be read as condoning the “racist” tirades against the Philistines, etc.

Another working hypothesis is that many Christians are used to the vivid, often exaggerated imagery through the Bible, including many of the warnings of the prophets.

So from that perspective the voice of Trump can be heard as having a familiar biblical tone?

Just a trial balloon to try to understand.


Perhaps add to all of the above: when our focus is on a global, apocalyptic future, it’s easy to lose perspective. When I focus on the reality that this day or this minute may be my last, then God’s grace and ‘the greatest commandment’ take priority in my life


The Old Testament warning against Israel oppressing the alien must be balanced against the fact that God commanded that the idolatrous Canaanites be wiped out before Israel settled the land to keep Israel from being corrupted by bad religion (Deut. 20:16-18; Josh. 6:17; Psa. 106:34-42), and that Israel was authorized to buy slaves from non-Israelite tribes (Lev. 25:44-46), and that the same laws, even religious laws, applied to aliens as well as Israelites (Ex. 12:19, 49; Lev. 16:29; 17:10; 18:26; 24:22; Num. 15;16) so there was no such thing in Israel as importing a large cohort of foreigners to practice a foreign religion.

President Trump was not calling on anyone to oppress the Somali immigrants to Minnesota, but rather pledging to re-examine the policy of mass transformative immigration and its effects on communities, and not force immigrants on local communities without their consent. There is nothing in Scripture that purports to dictate the immigration policies of the United States. There is nothing that says we have to import an alien culture and religious group into the country willy-nilly.

Speaking of oppressing the poor, it is no secret that our economic elites demand open borders and mass immigration because they want a constant stream of new labor to drive down wages of already-resident workers. President Trump opposes open borders because he wants to drive up wages, just as he opposes outsourcing our manufacturing, which our elites have been doing for 30 years. Opposing mass immigration and outsourcing of manufacturing are Trump’s reasonably and rationally calculated ways to raise wages for America’s working class, which is dying of drug overdoses and suicide at an alarming rate. The notion that it is a threat to our morals or to the SDA Church to stand with Trump on these policies is utterly lacking in merit.

As to the mayor of Minneapolis, he stated long before the rally that he would prevent Trump from holding a rally in the city if he could legally do so, and then tried to charge the Trump campaign over $500,000 for “security,” even as he forbade police officers from attending the rally in uniform. He went out of his way to pick a fight with Trump knowing that Trump always hits back twice as hard.

As for Ilhan Omar, the fact that she is of Somali extraction does not place her above criticism. She has minimized the 9/11 terror attacks (“some people did something”), made anti-Jewish comments (“its all about the Benjamins, baby”), and has a questionable personal history. There is credible evidence that her family name is not Omar but Elmi, that some of her family went to the U.S. and some to Great Britain, that she married her biological brother (of the British Elmis) at the same time as she was married to the father of her three children, whom she is now divorcing just as it transpired she was having an affair with a political aid. Her problems extend far beyond being an America-hating socialist.


As a seven-decade registered Republican, I have been concerned about some of the basic problems you mentioned, but I see nothing in your post that responds to his essay. Dr. Tonstad was addressing those of us who see through Trump and his motivation and simply shrug.


David, in my view was answering Sigve article and was questioning the “filtered” contextual use of OT texts in our present day setting. I have for 30 yrs. Been an independent and voted as I saw fit. I saw in Trump the first holistic 10 pt. Agenda in yrs. That I supported. Content and application is what I seek…not political BS to get elected.
I simply think SDA progressive religious fears are unfounded and Ill conceived and malicious towards this president.


I could dissect most of your assertions and show that they are either wholly incorrect or are unsubstantiated rumors. There have been continuous attempts to dig up dirt on Ilhan Omar ever since she was elected, and many of these attacks originate in hyperpartisan and alt-right news sources of known poor reliability, and some of which make up assertions from whole cloth. I am disturbed that anyone would repeat such assertions here. In reference to the 9/11 and “some people” quote, see this: https://www.apnews.com/afs:Content:7354840002

I would hope that in a Christian setting where we hope to have civil dialogue that such poorly supported and inflammatory assertions as you include would be withheld. They do not help the dialogue here.


This indeed is a very interesting question. From the outskirts, here in Europe, we still do not understand, but do not worry this is not a judgement : we are doing exactly the same thing. “Make Xlandia great again”, the same remedy is to be applied. Why do Christians vote Trump style ? I would say it’s an onion. There are different layers. People are the fruit of their environment they genuinely think they are making a choice while being pushed in one direction by what they read, what they listen to, the people they interact with. In the US, If your church tells you that this person will deal with roe versus Wade, if your social media reminds you to vote on d day depending on which side you are on and feeds you news that only confirms your point of view, if the people you talk to usually have the same opinion then you, the result of your vote is quite predictible. Second : the right candidate is the candidate who caters to your specific needs.The one who addresses questions nobody else wants to answer. Even if the answers might be wrong or simplistic. He has the guts to go there, were it hurts, were the wounds are festering with worms, he wants to address the stinging issues. Not even the church goes there any more. The church is not interested in dealing with culture shock, for instance, or globalisation, or the lack of opportunities for unskilled workers, or…the list goes on disquietingly. This feeling that finally you are heard, you count, you are reinstated fully in your rights as a citizen. Something is finally going to happen. Emotions are at play. This is the famous moment of the “what’s in it for me”, the description of the beautiful tangible promises that will come your way. You do not need to identify with the politician, just this share of the dream that concerns you. Hic et nunc. Dreams are here fore the grab, just vote. The pain has become anger for many not just the few. Coming to church has not solved everyday issues. We have made the Bible irrelevant perhaps yes, because of the way we read it and we teach it from the pulpit. We also weaponize the Bible against the" others". We send Bible verses kalachnikof style to silence X, y and Z who disagrees with us on any point of doctrine…or anything else. Adventists have little red book hand grenades kits in case of extreme emergency. Finally, we are more fearful then ever about the unknown. People do not mix. Preconceptions can persist and evolve. As it is difficult to unite people coming from a very individualistic background, one strategy is to unite around something to fight against rather than something to fight for. This is a type of rethoric that we are accustomed to, that we have refined to the highest level. When we recognize the tune outside the church, we join. It’s the same. The good news is for our own only and as modern don Quixote, we go on fighting ennemis of our own creation : modern Saracens et alii. When we redefine the other, we redefine ourselves too. We forget who we are, our mandate, our higher calling. We flatten the word Christian. History teaches us that though progressive, there is a point in the narrative when the other is so disfigured that he may become the monster we have to slay, all of it in the name of God. There is only one kingdom, one citizenship that guaranties justice and pursuit of happiness for all. Lest we forget.

Just curious are you in US. These assertions are on tape for the most part.

No Presidential administration has been Biblically “perfect”.
Clinton had a lot of baggage all the way from Gov. of Arkansas.
Including accusations of having certain persons killed. And the
women. Even the scandal in the White House.
Obama’s time was not perfect. Promised things that never happened.
Trump’s will never be “perfect”. He has had to do a lot of fighting to
get some of his planned projects even partially done. The Dem’s and
the press have continually labeled him a “illegitimate” president. And
have continually been trying to get him thrown out of office.
He has been attempting to do the best he can with THE INVASION from
the South. Some of the rules for caring for THE INVATION PEOPLE were
from the Obama Administration. We have no idea the problems Law Enforcement
have had with the 1000’s of people who were uninvited coming through and trying
to process them through the Immigration process. Diseases they may be
bringing with them to pass on to the American Public. How are they going to find
money for food. Find shelter. Take up hospital space with no payments to hospital
for their care. Hospitals and Health Care will go broke. County gov’ts will go broke.
We can complain, but it is a REAL DISASTER that America has to deal with and
something America was not and is not prepared for.

Have you considered the TASK of IMMUNIZATIONS of all these people?
Mumps, Measles, Rubella alone.


David, you make great points here. Unfortunately, the blind hatred and bigotry of the angry left will not be able to comprehend anything you just said. They are driven by partisan hatred and have absolutely no objectivity whatsoever.


Great job here with an objective, understanding and unifying unbiased essay! I’m so glad you are there to educate our youth. Is Rep. Omar your write-in candidate? Sounds like you should work on her campaign!


In the US, although I fail to see the significance. Also, I no one is claiming she didn’t speak those words. Did you look at the article I linked? The point is that her words were taken out of context. There is nothing sinister when taken in context.


I asked because I wondered if you were aware of the video evidence. Not your understanding of there being in context. The squad is anti Israel. It is extremely socialist in its views. That’ all

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That is an interpretation, and quite debatable.

Also open to interpretation. They are definitely very left, and support certain types of socialist policies, but the US is a long way from being a socialist country, even if we were to enact a socialized medical system and restore our tax system to a more progressive one.


And that is your interpretation. Not fact.
That’s why we have elections…not kangaroo investigations attempting a coup of a US president.


I own both of these under God-given rights.
Prove me wrong…


The blatant bigotry of this political rant is so obvious no rational person would give it any credibility.