Norwegian Union Responds to GC Unity Video

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I dared not watch this purgative video, till after my Thanksgiving feats, itself a table of unity despite various races, genders, political and religious affiliations.

This horrendous video may undoubtedly be “the straw” that fractured the camels spine.
You know, that camel, contortiously squeezing itself through the aye of the needle.
Yeah, that camel doing spiritual calisthenics.

I sense two things were clarified here with shocking clarity, and it will, sadly or not, not be lost on a once blind laodicean laity.

Needs several edits, particularly in last 30 seconds.

GENERAL CONFERENCE IN OBSESSION is first faux pas.
Second, the “MY CHURCH” mantra needs say “NOT YOUR CHURCH”

I fear I hearJesus muttering sadly there in the garden of discontent,
“NOT MY FAMILY”, if it claims that I must accept its ongoing discrimination against truth, dialog, conscience.

“YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND”
(pope wilson the 2nd, standing as the “VOICE OF god”, san antonio, 2015)

A predetermined outcome via a heads I win, tails you lose vote
is not a search for truth no matter how artfully you carve that tofurkey.
Round and round, like π. Never forward.

“Want some VegeWhip or Ice Scream with that grandest feast I am so humbly serving you?
Whats that, PeptoDismal…? You ingrate, show me your invitation to my spellbinding wedding/unity feast of feasts! Sir, you aren’t wearing the correct 3 piece suit to be here-you need to leave now!”

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#5

The leadership of the Norwegian Union is surprised and disappointed by the five-minute video Adventist News Network published on November 20th:

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#6

Unbelievable that the so-called ANN has produced such non-qualified misleading video full of falsity… and taking it in the public arena! This is part of a the “paid” damage of church reputation. Where are our so called Communicators (GC COM/ANN) going next?

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#7

They are there, in the back vege-smoke filled room, congratulating themselves for another exemplary coup. They patted each others backs so long and hard soon they will be found in a chiropractors chair next.

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#8

Unfortunately, I can really imagine it this way!
In their rooms - at Silver Spring - I have stayed several times in the past!

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#9

It’s never a good sign when Adventists start taking cues from Westboro Baptist.

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#10

Invitation to the feast…

And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

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#11

The disinformation propaganda spin in this video is breathtaking for its brazen boldness.

The good YIDDISH word CHUTZPAH comes to mind.

Trump has already coined a phrase for this sort of deliberate disinformation:
FAKE NEWS.

The NORWEGIAN UNION is to be congratulated for their scathing and incisive analysis and dissection of this flagrant fake news.

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#12

Outstanding, very courageous response.

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#13

Kudos to the Norwegian Union for stating the obvious…especially for involving innocent minors in propaganda (a new low).

I hope/pray that the GC is listening with a spiritual ear to what they are saying. Otherwise, all is lost.

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#14

And women where not exploited by some ?
When all this emerged with certain movements and politics.
Women are used as human shields for a religious view.

Untill we unravel the real issues in love.
There are some points of view in video that also ring alarm bells .

George ?

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Good luck on this one!!!
It never happened, won’t happen now that their crusade is about to start!!!

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#16

If not possible to listen in Love…then there is no chance that the World church will make it all together. Schism may be the best and only choice.

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#17

Simon –
One will HAVE to say this for the Video, whoever COACHED the actors did a great job!
I wonder how many retakes it took for them all??
The EXACT tone of voice for the “one words”.
The exact facial expressions of the WOMEN.
The CRYING facial features of the WOMEN.
NONE of these Women probably EVER felt the Call of The Spirit in their lives to do
something BIG, HUGE in their lifetime.
So these WOMEN would have no idea as to what they are calling against.

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#18

Not just in Norway!

This is a better effort. Teachable moments here!

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#19

As silly as this video is, there is more truth in it than in the GC Unity video, and perhaps a clue as to how it is we came to have such a video.

Imagine the characters in it as characters in the GC and it gets even funnier! Ted is the king…

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#20

I feel led of the Holy Spirit to add my voice of appreciation to the Norwegian Union for their clear statement of opposition to the video put out by the General Conference Communication department. May the Lord give strength, grace and courage to all our members in Noway.
The General Conference has loved to promote the program of “Revival and Reformation”. Is it not time for the leadership at Silver Springs to apply this program to their own hearts? It might be very fitting for the GC to call for 10 days of prayer for headquarters leadership for a radical change of heart in order to re-establish unity in our church.

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#21

In the 1980-1990’s a group of neuroscientists discovered mirror neurons that activate when we perform a certain action—such as smiling or reaching for a cup—and when we observe someone else performing that same action. Mirror neurons are brain cells known to code the actions of other people and also our own. They are essential brain cells for social interactions. Without them, we would likely be blind to the actions, intentions and emotions of other people. The way mirror neurons likely let us understand others is by providing some kind of inner imitation of the actions of other people, which in turn leads us to “simulate” the intentions and emotions associated with those actions. The loss of function among mirror neurons can be devastating in socialization and attachment/bonding. As an example autism has been linked to mirror neuron dysfunction. Mirror neurons are essential in developing empathy.

I’m beginning to wonder whether our GC leadership’s mirror neurons have atrophied and convoluted. Such clueless behaviors. Perhaps this is a case of expecting blood from turnip.

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#22

In contrast to the GC’s vapid video, the Norwegian Union offers this substantive and biblically-informed statement. But we have been witnessing this sort of back-and-forth for a long time.

I think Ted Wilson, Mark Finley, and Clinton Wahlen should stop hiding in the bushes and forthrightly disclose their beliefs in a substantive way that this video does not.

Ted could start by addressing Martin Luther’s statement, “Going against the conscience is cumbersome, harmful and dangerous.” Ted, why do you insist on trampling upon the personal conscience of 40 percent of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? Why is it impossible for you to accommodate this exercise of personal conscience?

Mark could then disclose for the first time in his entire life his belief regarding the Trinity. Mark, do you believe in Eternal Functional Subordinationism, which holds that the immanent Trinity is hierarchically ordered and that the Son is eternally subordinate to the Father? Given that this issue has been one of the four or five most hotly debated issues in Christendom during the last forty years, how could you not form an opinion? Your silence forces us to infer that you as an opponent of women’s ordination are a Neo-Subordinationist, because Eternal Functional Subordinationism is the principle component of male headship theory which undergirds opposition to women’s ordination. Therefore, Mark, how do you reconcile this belief with your assertion that Jesus is divine, given that an eternally subordinate Son by virtue of such subordination does not possess the divine attributes of sovereignty and omnipotence?

Clinton could then disclose all of the changes to our Fundamental Beliefs he would like to see, given his belief in male headship theory. He tried to change our FB regarding the communion service by suggesting that only ordained ministers should be allowed to officiate. Obviously, our FB regarding the doctrine of God would need to be changed to express belief in Eternal Functional Subordinationism. Clinton, should we not also incorporate Arius’ soteriology, which goes hand in hand with his doctrine of God? Many of our FBs are injured by male headship theory. Why not be open about all of the changes to the FBs that would be necessitated if we were to adopt the theology–male headship theory–that undergirds opposition to women’s ordination?

Rather than exploit children, I think certain GC officers should step up and answer questions in a forthright way for all of the Seventh-day Adventists around the world to see.

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#23

Certainly exposing themselves as non Adventist! Well written, Phil.

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