Well, whoever wrote Timothy wrote a real doozie in that passage. The section of the text is advise on prayer. I assume you agree with the rest of it as well:
Instructions concerning Prayer
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and dignity. 3 This is right and is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For
there is one God;
there is also one mediator between God and humankind,
Christ Jesus, himself human,
6 who gave himself a ransom for all
this was attested at the right time. 7 For this I was appointed a herald and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
8 I desire, then, that in every place the men should pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or argument; 9 also that the women should dress themselves modestly and decently in suitable clothing, not with their hair braided, or with gold, pearls, or expensive clothes, 10 but with good works, as is proper for women who profess reverence for God. 11 Let a woman (or wife) learn in silence with full submission. 12 I permit no woman (or wife) to teach or to have authority over a man (or her husband); she is to keep silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. 15 Yet she will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.
- Men should pray, and
- Women should be modest: No braided hair, no pearl necklaces, no golden broaches, and no expensive clothes.
- No teaching anything to men, concerning prayer, the subject of this passage.
- Instead of praying, women will be saved through childbirth, as long as they are modest and have faith.
I’ll venture to say that in the SDA church it is quite acceptable for women to wear fancy clothes, a golden broach, perhaps a golden watch, and to braid their hair any way they want. And women pray all the time in church, to this passages’ point. And we have women teaching men all the time as well, both in and out of church.
And I have never heard it preached that women should stand by while men pray earnestly, have faith, and keep having babies in order to be saved. Is this taught by the church? (No)
Also, and of particular interest to me is this assertion:
"For Adam was formed first, then Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. "
This is a significant twisting of the first creation story in Genesis where, near the end of creation…
26 Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”
27 So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
There’s nothing about Adam being created first here, though there is in the second creation account where Adam names all the things as they’re created. I guess you can pick one or the other, but they can’t both be true: Either humankind was created together at the end of creation or Adam at the beginning and Eve at the end.
Later, with the serpent:
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate.
Adam was right there with her listening to Eve and the serpent chat and he did nothing. Either he was not deceived, and so bears more of the fault than Eve, or he was also deceived by the snake, since Eve said nothing to him, and he too heard the snake. Either way, blaming Eve for the fall is misreading the story.
Paul didn’t write Timothy, most biblical scholars agree, and at best the advise here is cultural and mostly ignored. Even embarrassing. Women are not saved through childbirth.
Timothy is chock full of advise we ignore, even cringe at when read.
As an example, here’s some advice on widows:
But refuse to put younger widows on the list [younger than 60, on the list for charity]; for when their sensual desires alienate them from Christ, they want to marry, 12 and so they incur condemnation for having violated their first pledge. 13 Besides that, they learn to be idle, gadding about from house to house; and they are not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not say.
So, withhold charity from a widow that may want to remarry because their “sensual desires alienate them from Christ”. Huh? Oh, and also because remarrying is a sin against her first marriage. And she’s condemned for it. And also, remember, because widows tend to be shameless gossips.
Try teaching that from the pulpit. Any of it. We accept remarriage on our church, and even more so for widows than probably any other type of once-married person. We do not disparage widows as gossips.
There are many more offensive statements in Timothy that are generally ignored, and for good reason. The advise for women to shut up and make babies to be saved while the men pray is just as invalid.