Racism and History with Carmen Lau — Adventist Voices

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Elmer, you are right. Mocking is not part of my behavior in conversations or any kind of interactions.

May be what was said here reveals some transference happening when I was accused of mocking Sirje @sirje. Knowing each other here on this forum for many years, I am sure that Sirje did not read any mocking or disrespect.

It seems that some bullying is taking place here, again, but I am out of this conversation. It’s obvious that the conversation in this thread is being killed too, aborted for the same reasons as it happened elsewhere before. It appears to be the “new normal” now, with the site’s blessings.

See you again on another thread.

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I know she said it but how certain are you that she was referring to our friend George @GeorgeTichy who mocked her especially when George made his post after she said she was mocked? That is quite a leap of faith or is it bias instead? Like you would frequently ask, “give the evidence.“

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You are quite the prophet. You predicted it and here it is.

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I have no idea what Harry posted. I don’t read him period. But I know you and George to be accepting and balanced people so I can read you two and get a pretty good idea. I refuse to be a part of his game and it is a game because last I saw he is pretty much alone in his posting. Like others have said, I’m just not participating in games.

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Well George, as of right now, you have only 5 days to figure this out.

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Thanks, @elmer_cupino.

One way, and the shortest, most direct way to determine this would be for you and/or George Tichy to turn to @Sirje and say, “Sirje, when you said, ‘I had mentioned not being able to find a definition of racism, and of course was mocked for it,’ to whom were you referring?”

Do you agree, and/or disagree?

As for your claim that “George made his post after she said she was mocked,” let’s walk through this together:

A) According to the site’s internal chronometer/date-time stamp, @Sirje’s statement:

…was posted on September 10, at 8:59 am.

B) George Tichy’s response, which “mocked” her:

…was posted 1 hour and 23 minutes later; September 10, 10:22 am.

C) @Sirje’s 2nd statement:

…was posted on September 12, 7:22 am.

In other words, your statement—“George made his post after she said she was mocked”—is not true.

George made his post 1 day and 21 hours before she said she was mocked.

That is: She said she was “mocked” nearly two days after George Tichy made his mocking statement.

What other evidence do you desire? :thinking:

Or do you, George Tichy, and @2humBaby want to continue to suck the oxygen out of the room?

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I don’t have to ask @Sirje anything particularly when George @GeorgeTichy made his post after Sirje’s post. The longitudinal progression is what is important unless Sirje has been transformed miraculously as a prophet.

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Whoooo…whoa…whoa… man… :rofl:

I’m sorry, I’m sorry…I’m…

O.K. …

O.K. …

O.K. …

O.K. …

O.K. …

…sigh…

…whewww…

ALL RIGHT!!

Back to Racism!!

HA

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Gonna just keep my pale wack poetry too
far out of this melee of a milieu.

Ooooopps, there it is, too late.
Sometimes you just gotta let the haters hate.

Biases are mere reified delusions
based on pet confirmation illusions

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Hey Harry, give it a rest - focus Harry, focus.

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@Sirje:

Based on your statement about racism, above, and my “It’s-a-thing-of-beauty…” response to it, YOU should focus.

Trust me: I’m the most focused Black man you will ever meet. :no_mouth:

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Or as i suggested in early comments to him-“breathe”.
Cleansing breathes-imma gonna go back to my breather

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LOL
Sirje, Don’t say these things unless you are prepared to be accused of mocking me… :rofl:

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No, no “Sirje Prophet” on this forum. There is only one prophet that, so far, has been always right on the money. Now, I fully agree that she qualifies for AP (Assistant Prophet), because it appears that she made a prophecy about mocking without even knowing it. Hmmm, this may be “inspirational”… :wink: :laughing: But we have to first verify if there was any plagiaris…, I mean, borrowing involved!
:innocent:
@Sirje

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Sadly-seen this play before, got the handbill.
When you no longer wish to play the bully game,
bully comes back and claims the highground,
he was “right all along”-
and since we don’t play evinces we are racist.
Amazing how ones bias can be so entrenched that one does not recognize it-
but actually utilizes it to create these “self-fulfilling” reifications.

Against own better judgment-asking-rhetorically, strictly-
what can we do to get to that deeper conversation?
Getting stuck on skin deep stuff we were born with and can do nothing about is assurance we will never scratch more than the same surface scab. Gotta debride that stuff-but most dare not, fearing the pain, until the fear becomes even larger than the pain.

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I’m lost here. Is there mocking going on? And I’m not part of it?

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I think I should take the title, “Mocker-in-Chief.” Sirje @sirje can be the “Deputy Mocker.” Do you wanna be the Secretary Mocker?
We still need to keep one office for Elmer @elmer_cupino, let him choose whatever he wants.

Well,on a less serious note …, it’s sad that an important issue can no longer be decently/thoroughly discussed on this forum due to undue interference. I wonder if Kim @cincerity could do a session of hypnotism from distance to help? She doesn’t need to mock anyone, just keep someone in trance for a while (I mean, like 6 to 8 months :innocent: ).
:upside_down_face: :upside_down_face: :upside_down_face:

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I see well I guess I need to go back and read Harry. I’m guessing he is doing the labeling. He is very good at that aspect

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If you are that much interested, and have the time,… yes, do it… :roll_eyes:
You have 5 days left to figure it all out!.. LOL

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I’m really not interested in what Harry has to say. I did read that I am part of taking away oxygen.

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