I don’t have to ask @Sirje anything particularly when George @GeorgeTichy made his post after Sirje’s post. The longitudinal progression is what is important unless Sirje has been transformed miraculously as a prophet.
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Whoooo…whoa…whoa… man… 
I’m sorry, I’m sorry…I’m…
O.K. …
O.K. …
O.K. …
O.K. …
O.K. …
…sigh…
…whewww…
ALL RIGHT!!
Back to Racism!!
HA
Gonna just keep my pale wack poetry too
far out of this melee of a milieu.
Ooooopps, there it is, too late.
Sometimes you just gotta let the haters hate.
Biases are mere reified delusions
based on pet confirmation illusions
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Hey Harry, give it a rest - focus Harry, focus.
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Based on your statement about racism, above, and my “It’s-a-thing-of-beauty…” response to it, YOU should focus.
Trust me: I’m the most focused Black man you will ever meet. 
HA
Or as i suggested in early comments to him-“breathe”.
Cleansing breathes-imma gonna go back to my breather
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LOL
Sirje, Don’t say these things unless you are prepared to be accused of mocking me… 
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No, no “Sirje Prophet” on this forum. There is only one prophet that, so far, has been always right on the money. Now, I fully agree that she qualifies for AP (Assistant Prophet), because it appears that she made a prophecy about mocking without even knowing it. Hmmm, this may be “inspirational”… 
But we have to first verify if there was any plagiaris…, I mean, borrowing involved!
@Sirje
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Sadly-seen this play before, got the handbill.
When you no longer wish to play the bully game,
bully comes back and claims the highground,
he was “right all along”-
and since we don’t play evinces we are racist.
Amazing how ones bias can be so entrenched that one does not recognize it-
but actually utilizes it to create these “self-fulfilling” reifications.
Against own better judgment-asking-rhetorically, strictly-
what can we do to get to that deeper conversation?
Getting stuck on skin deep stuff we were born with and can do nothing about is assurance we will never scratch more than the same surface scab. Gotta debride that stuff-but most dare not, fearing the pain, until the fear becomes even larger than the pain.
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I’m lost here. Is there mocking going on? And I’m not part of it?
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I think I should take the title, “Mocker-in-Chief.” Sirje @sirje can be the “Deputy Mocker.” Do you wanna be the Secretary Mocker?
We still need to keep one office for Elmer @elmer_cupino, let him choose whatever he wants.
Well,on a less serious note …, it’s sad that an important issue can no longer be decently/thoroughly discussed on this forum due to undue interference. I wonder if Kim @cincerity could do a session of hypnotism from distance to help? She doesn’t need to mock anyone, just keep someone in trance for a while (I mean, like 6 to 8 months ).
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I see well I guess I need to go back and read Harry. I’m guessing he is doing the labeling. He is very good at that aspect
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If you are that much interested, and have the time,… yes, do it… 
You have 5 days left to figure it all out!.. LOL
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I’m really not interested in what Harry has to say. I did read that I am part of taking away oxygen.
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Thank you for listening to the podcast and for these comments. I hear your strong assertion that the foot-washing ritual is more relevant than ever. Best. Carmen
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At least you were not falsely accused of mocking anybody…
I think that leaving the room is the only way to demonstrate who is actually taking away the oxygen and intoxicating the environment. Thread after thread.Let’s get out of here, we have a better place!
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Indeed we do George! Indeed
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A number of weeks back I watched a lecture on critical theory, seeing as the term had been thrown around a lot more recently. I’ve since come across another lecture by the same person, Dr. Neil Shenvi, which I think he does better job in this one.
Neil Shenvi gives a lecture on Social Justice, Critical Theory, and Christianity: Are They Compatible? at the Center for Faith and Culture.
Dr. Neil Shenvi has a Ph.D. in Theoretical Chemistry from UC-Berkeley and an A.B. in Chemistry from Princeton.
He also critiques the anti-critical theorist side and challenges them at the end of the talk - bringing up very telling stats (on racial issues), and maybe for some people very uncomfortable stats. But most of his lecture deals with critical theory and everything that comes under that umbrella - critical race theory, critical feminist theory, social justice etc.
IOW - not everything critical theory has to offer is bad, but he (as a Christian) does point out what he finds incompatible with the Christian world view.
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Hey, George Tichy, @elmer_cupino, @2humBaby, @Timo, and the rest:
Guys: What you’re experiencing…is not new. I’ve seen it before.
This is the point where white people start to check out.
Suddenly, it’s not fun. There’s a whole new level of argumentation, and it’s kinda scorched-earth. It doesn’t go away with placid homilies, or gentle reassurances.
As far as I can tell, George Tichy has posted about seven or eight times, here, about how dead this place is. Such…drama.
If you want to go, depart. I’ll be sorry to see you all leave. “But how can two walk together unless they are agreed?” (Amos 3:3)
Besides: This site belongs to Adventist Forum, not to any of you, and certainly not to me. None of us are indispensable.
Of course, if you want to stay, stay. I’m here to talk about racism, which is only expressed as white supremacy. What are you here to talk about?
If it’s race, I’m happy to have conversations with you. One of us will speak, and one of us will listen. Then the other one will speak, and the other one will listen. Make sense?
I mean, trust me: Everything so far has just been hors d’oeuvres, from my perspective. I’d like to see it get way more intense.
All right! Gotta get to bed, so I can write Part II of my response to @Sirje’s epic post.
Nighty-night!
Affectionately,
HA
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Wonder if you are married-Harry.
I’d love to document your response, if, for instance, your wife were to-as garrulously as you, here- insist, since you are a male in a male dominated systemic patriarchal that makes you a male supremacist.
Unless you are together-ie are coerced to accept her redefinition-not sure you would do anything, together.
Much as you try divorce them, genderism, ageism, racism have much in common (aside from the relative newcomer status of last ism)-and in terms of ongoing studies on bias, essentially interchangeable as far as the human psyche. Convenient to compartmentalize, dismiss, denigrate, but ineffective-and revealing.
But, like I said, you’d be here saying how bad and racist and fragile all of us here are.
A whole spectrum of people, people you have no knowledge of their race.
Typical stereotyping does not become you-nor do your other tactics.
Go-keep telling the world how evil white supremacy, how it is the chief sin.
Keep making a handsome living selling this song.
Keep being proud of your involvement in crime-glorifying adolescent video games…and more.
Your webprint is long, and wide. Anyone could do a little research-and begin to see many of the things you are most proud of may in fact have had something to do with the decay of the culture you claim is intentionally being oppressed, no, MURDERED by the white devils.
Keep posting endless gifs after pics after videos. Keep believing in your superiority of skillset, greatness, thinking prowess, writing abilities.
You ARE a (self professed) media assassin, non pareil, no doubt.
And you are a male supremacist-can’t help it-simply because you are a male.
Now go apologize to your wife-why, she may be so under the millenia of male thumb she is unaware of how deep, broad, unforgivable, and unchangeable, you really are.
But you OWE her.
Now try for a moment to reverse-
no, never mind.
Even I cannot dream that big.
Not even the wack poet in me.
But I appreciate you Harry-you have lived up to my every expectation of you.
And you have exposed some things here which may be useful.
Look me up after you have to leave your wife-I’ll share a cuppa mud, and a story with you.
Are you as good listening as you are talkin?
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