My dad had a few things that he made in volume. He would make a big pot of spaghetti sauce, vegetable soup and chow chow. He would can the chow chow, and freeze the sauce and soup in quart sizes for later. My mom did most of the cooking, but daddy had his moments in the kitchen!
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There is nothing like watching SDA’s be uncomfortable around food!
Every year my husbands place of employment has a big Christmas party at a local restaurant. They cater the food for our group, so we have our own large room with our own menu. The start of the meal begins with appetizers, (it’s a buffet set up). Last year there was a couple approaching the appetizers very carefully. I thought they were probably Adventists. I asked the hubs, and yes, they were. It was kind of comical, and kind of sad. From the looks on their faces, you would have thought they were facing some truly frightening dilemma. Nope, just food!
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So true…it depends on a lot of where you live and especially the ethnicity of the group. I can tell you that the Koreans and Samoans LOVE their fish and chicken! It isn’t unheard of to see chicken and beef in some of the Hispanic churches, too.
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It is eaten quickly!
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there’s a new craze up here in calgary, at least at the organic grocery store i go to…it’s called “Beyond Meat”, made of pea protein isolate, faba bean protein, brown rice protein, bamboo cellulose, cellulose gum extract, beet extract, apple fibre, among other goodies (no soy)…everybody’s saying that the patties look, cook, taste and chew like real beef…i fried up some the other day, just before a student came in for his lesson…he thought things smelled like bacon, and wondered why i was eating bacon for supper…
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Pea protein is relatively New here also.
I believe it is a substitute OFFERING in place of SOY and GLUTEN.
I have a friend who is allergic to Soy. Makes her cough.
If you look at the ingredients of 99% of stuff has SOY LETHICIN in it. Even Chocolate.
Many persons are distressed with Wheat Gluten.
So Pea protein should do well over time and it becomes known.
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I asked if you had criteria for deciding what is “truth”, and I sense the answer is that we each have our own truth, since each of us has had a different experience. And thus, there is no “truth” that is universal to all.
You spoke earlier of premarital sex, and our culture of allowing such. The acceptance of this has now led many young people to living together and not marrying at all, Has taking the issue to its logical conclusion helped society?
Especially in the black community, where this is very common (about 73% of children are out of wedlock), it has led to increased poverty, and suffering especially among children. Three quarters of women who have a child without a husband will remain in poverty for the rest of their lives. No grandstanding of successful single mothers will change that statistic. I think the truth is clear, though few will act on it. Is the idea that sex is to be exclusively a marital act a truth? Or is it that society has decided and we are to allow for its actions?
Is the statement, “The truth shall set you free.” a false statement of the facts because there is no truth?
it’s interesting because i fried up some more of the Beyond Meat burgers earlier tonight for supper, with onions and mushrooms and vegan gravy (plus my secret seasoning mix), just before another student came for his violin lesson…he thought the house smelled “wonderful”, and i asked him what he thought it was…right away he said “pork chops”…
i’ve never had these kinds of comments when i’ve cooked up the worthington or loma linda soy meats…so the pea protein must be more convincing to meat eaters, at least on a smell level…i’m noticing a lot of pea protein in the vegan protein shake powders i’m buying, too…but we’ll see what some of the church people think at the next potluck (we’re officially vegetarian, but a lot of church members are meat eaters at home)…
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Thank you for a very thoughtful and perceptive article. It is pregnant with meaning for our church in the current climate. Let those who have ears to hear, listen!
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Allen –
The “Downside” of government Assistance programs is that it unintentionally has
fostered this idea of living with a woman and siring one or more children. That way
the woman gets housing, money for each child, food stamps, other perks.
The Man lives with the woman and lives off the children’s money, has a place to
stay, food in his belly.
As you say, it has Detrimental Impact on THE MAN, THE WOMAN, THE CHILDREN.
And fosters the Continuation of Generational dependence on Government handouts,
and on “Early Retirement” on Welfare – Government Assistance.
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Hence why I said that I’m not sure what you mean by “truth”, since most of the people understand the concept of truth “intuitively” and don’t really think about what it really means. We can axiomatically assume that there is a reality out there, and that there is a model of that reality in our head. So, we can start with nominal concepts like apple that corresponds with apple in reality. And we can proceed with label attributes like “Apple is red”, and so there is some nominal and conceptual coherence that we can share to communicate certain perception of reality in terms of “nominal truth”.
As such there are “universal truths” in the basic and nominal sense of how we can communicate what we observe using shared linguistic framework. But, when we get to abstract concepts like “freedom”, “love”, and “God”, each of us will understand these differently, because there is no nominal concepts we can point to in order to contextualize these abstracts consistently. So, we generally rely on our own experiences to do so, and hope that there is a great degree of coherence and conceptual overlap when we communicate certain conceptual reality to each other.
Of course, human language is limited, and certain conceptual truths we understand as a coherent internal concepts that we may find difficult to verbalize or explain.
Hence, truth is both a mix of coherent overlapping Universal’s, and certain internal coherence that we understand intuitively.
I think it have done both if we look at it broader than “those evil young people are irresponsible with sex”. Let’s keep in mind that sexual drive is something that we have hard-wired into “autopilot” irrational parts of our brain. Hence, these urges and drives direct us to sexual activity no matter what culture says about it.
That’s actually the first “truth” that we’ve learned to reject when we discuss these issues. We didn’t really build a culture that reflects our biology in context of modern approach to sex. So, on one hand we expect sex to be properly contextualized in a marriage contract, and on the other hand we have a very long list of cultural expectations one gets to fulfill before one gets to marriage.
As a result, the adulthood is no longer associated with a rite of passage of marriage that was secured by one’s parents. Hence, it’s no surprise that sex is detached from marital context, because one’s “autopilot biology” is a “screaming need” that doesn’t wait until one graduates and secures a job at 26-28 years old.
I’m not saying that it’s impossible, after all I waited till marriage… but it didn’t happen absent of some sublimated alternatives like sports and masturbation. It wasn’t easy, and it certainly won’t get easier for my children.
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Truth is actually more complex than that. There is a context for structural poverty which has some background in suppressing a success of black minorities, and later perpetuating poverty cycle by exploiting political “help” via subsidies that encourage having children out of wedlock and not get married. So, you can’t cite these statistics as some isolated phenomenon that resulted solely due to “lack of marriage in black community”.
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Usually, when someone asks you “What is truth,” they are actually putting a trap in front of you. They are opening a door trying to push you into the room of guilt. “If you don’t believe the truth that God delivered to us, then you are not being faithful.”
But, guess what? That " truth that God delivered to us" is obviously the “truth according to” that very person that is asking you to define truth. If you don’t define it exactly as they believe, you may be called unfaithful, infidel, or heretic. In Allen’s case @ajshep you may even be considered a “fool,” as Allen referred from the pulpit of his congregation to those here at Spectrum that disagree with him. (There is video of it on YouTube)
So, be careful, don’t fall in that trap. Have your own truth well defined, as everyone else has, and be proud of it!
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I appreciate how realistic and balanced your comment is. Meaningful.
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And in many instances it becomes a generational problem.
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Yes, and thus, becomes a cultural phenomena.
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It is relatively new and it caters to the non-soy population of vegetarians/vegans. The Alternative Health world does not like soy in general and pea protein is a relatively cheap and is a protein-dense alternative. I try to limit both soy and gluten and pea protein products are popping up everywhere now…there’s even a pea p. burger at Trader Joes!
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The hamburger patties that I bought smelled just like beef to me…the product even had the red coloring to it. Liked the taste but hated the smell!
Isn’t there a misspelling in this article’s tittle??? 
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