Smithsonian Names Ellen White One of 100 Most Influential Americans Ever

The good news about about EGW? What is that good news?


Yes, picking and choosing: No Starbucks, only StarBoox allowed… :slight_smile:


Well, She “saw” it, therefore I guess we have no other option than being faithful to the vision …


I knew we would get an “interpretation” clarifying it and telling us what she really meant!


And sometimes her interpreters need to be interpreted :wink:


This simply confirms that EGW was influential. It says nothing at all about her inspiration, whether she was truly a prophet, etc.

For those able to read with an open mind, I recommend the book, “Ellen Harmon White: American Prophet” that was recently published. I just finished reading it and found it very informative. It will alarm some. It will cause some to protest. It will cause some to question or reject EGW. I found it significant because I see it as honest research by a number of Adventists (and some not), many of whom I know personally and respect.

To those who would object to this book, I would say: If EGW cannot withstand the light this book shines on her life and work, then I think we should be concerned.


God will find others, to help us with the work. I’m sure some of you have read this, or heard this.

Paul Harvey, a conservative American radio broadcaster for the ABC Radio Networks. He broadcast News and Comment on weekday mornings and mid-days, and at noon on Saturdays, as well as his famous The Rest of the Story segments. From the 1950s through the 1990s, Harvey’s programs reached as many as 24 million people a week. Paul Harvey News was carried on 1,200 radio stations, 400 Armed Forces Network stations and 300 newspapers. (edited from Wiki)

He, Paul Harvey, said, during one of these broadcasts:

“Women have been honored on American postage stamps for more than 100 years, starting with one woman who was not an American, Queen Isabella, in 1893. Since then, 86 women have been honored, ranging from Martha Washington to Marilyn Monroe. Also many women authors like Louisa May Alcott, Emily Dickenson, Willa Cather, and Rachel Carson. But I can name an American woman author who has never been honored thus, though her writings have been translated into 148 languages. More than Marx or Tolstoy, more than Agatha Christie, more than William Shakespeare. Only now is the world coming to appreciate her recommended prescription for optimum spiritual and physical health." (And concluded) "Ellen White: You don’t know her? Get to know her!”

Millions would of heard this. Also, I remember putting it in our church bulletin one week, my pastor (with wide eyes) was pleasantly surprised when I showed it to him.


Ordinarily. when publishers reprint a book it is because there is increasing demand. But the White Estate can continue publishing for the next 100 years because in conjunction with the church’s advertising Adventists are told they should have all her books on their shelves and are essentially necessary, THEY create the market; unlike the public who wants more Harry Potter books, no ads needed.

In all the foreign translations, not until there are Adventists there, there is no demand for her books. Following conversion to Adventism, with the church highly recommending them for better understanding of the BIble, the demand is created.


Of course the public want more Harry Potter books. Harry Potter helps you to escape reality, while Ellen White brings back into it.

And by the way, I wouldn’t worry about that. In that link given above “100 Most Significant Americans of All Time.” I looked at the list and under the section of “Rebels & resisters”, look what names appear.

Rebels & resisters

Martin Luther King Jr.
Robert E. Lee
Thomas Paine
John Brown
Frederick Douglass
Susan B. Anthony
W.E.B. Du Bois
Sitting Bull
Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Malcolm X
George Tichy
Elmer Cupino
Elaine Nelson

Tsk…tsk :scream:

Interestingly, George is on two lists!


Benedict Arnold
Jesse James
John Wilkes Booth
Al Capone
Billy the Kid
William M. “Boss” Tweed
Charles Manson
Wild Bill Hickok
Lee Harvey Oswald
John Dillinger
Lucky Luciano
George Tichy

Must you lot always cause so much trouble :wink: You need to be more like me :angel:


Elaine, that is exactly what I have always thought. Most of her books would never have been published by a “regular” publishing house, which produces books on the basis of popular demand. I think most of those EGW translations are probably “Steps to Christ,” a book that should be thought of as “self-published” and translated more as a sales brochure. This doesn’t necessarily, by itself, make it or any of her other books bad. “Steps for Christ” as a great little booklet for Christians and for Christian proselytizing. But bragging about how many languages it has been translated into is really quite misleading, perhaps deliberately so. As you say, unlike “regular” books which are published and translated according to popular demand, these books are published and translated for the benefit of the church and its proselytizing.


lol…very funny, TonyR :slight_smile: Thanks for the laugh this evening!


I’m glad to have made you laugh :smiley: I enjoy making people smile. Even though I don’t always do a good job at it :blush:


So all our online debating about Ellen White has helped propel her into this list! :slight_smile:


Fully agree, Peter.

I purchased the book and have read most of it (hopefully will get to the rest of it this week, seeing as I’ve developed a mild case of pneumonia and am enjoying some enforced bed-rest.)

What should I do to move up on the list?

Why isn’t Elaine @ageis7, a self-proclaimed troublemaker, on the second list? Someone dropped the ball badly!!! This failure may have “grave consequences!” … :slight_smile:


And the most fantastic is that the W.E. keeps “cooking the boox,” since once in a while there is a new title being published. Unfortunately those are “postmortem” boox, so there is no way to get one signed by the author…


Elaine is on the first list, do you think I’d forget a massive trouble maker like her :wink:

We could make it public, you know, your secrete life? But I fear such a photo may also expose many others here. @elmer_cupino @hopeful @vandieman

If you only knew how many pictures it took to create this lol. I should receive a honorary Bachelors Degree in Cut and Paste :smile:


Just remember Frank that that is found in volume 1 of the testimonies, which was early in her ministry. Always keep in mind that EGW experience and emphasis on grace grew over her 70 years of ministry. She was far more grace centered in her later years than at first. Too many folks who quote here today, skew her writing to make it look like she was some morbid, fun hating, person void of care and compassion. Nothing could be further from the truth in what I have found in her writings. I was a bit disappointed to find that she copied extensively, but at least she copied the right things.


Why am I ahead of @ageis7 in the list when she is more of an efficient agitator than the sum of @GeorgeTichy and I, put together?


There are more ‘reasonable’ stories that balance out things. For example:

‘There are poor families whose diet consists largely of bread and milk. They have little fruit, and cannot afford to purchase the nut foods. In teaching health reform, as in all other gospel work, we are to meet the people where they are. Until we can teach them how to prepare health reform foods that are palatable, nourishing, and yet inexpensive, we are not at liberty to present the most advanced propositions regarding health reform diet.’ Testimonies V7, p.135