Back when I was much younger, I was given some letters (letters, children, being how we spread church gossip before the Internet came along) circulated by a Seventh-day Adventist woman who claimed God had selected her to be a new prophet to our church. Some of the messages were just encouragements to re-embrace our enculturated Adventist apocalyptic.
Not sure…but I am positive that it would not have anything to do with surviving "debunking’. It’s more likely that it would have more to do with people not be spiritually “tuned” to hearing God’s voice.
Apparently there have been, and still are, Adventists that are quite open in accepting someone like Ernie Knoll and unfortunately he most likely won’t be the last of his kind. I think a better question to answer is: Why are some in Adventism is so susceptible to these types of people? I have my theories and would love to hear others.
In my opinion the major problem is that Adventism rejects Sola Sciptura and this is what has crated tens of problems. When people cannot speak/write without mentioning what prophet A said, it’s a clear clue that they can no longer base their faith and thinking on the Bible only. And soon the “prophet’s word” becomes the supreme word. And other prophets start infiltrating the crowd. It could, at the end, become a profitable business indeed.
Aaahhh, the “boox” …
I think that you have hit upon the “highlights” (a.k.a. “lowlights”) George. Thank-you for commenting.
No, all the beliefs are not sola scriptura- which I wouldn’t have an issue with if they would just admit that they have extra canonical books. However, it is hard to be the “People of the Bible” if one does have these.
Having a prophet is problematic and since the belief (at least in theory) is that there could possibly more revelation…then it does open up the the doors for many other people to put up their own brand of apocalyptic “shingle”. Of course there can be money made in these “endeavors” and lots and lots of ego stroking as well. It additionally makes it much easier for those with unbalanced minds (who have come from Adventist backgrounds) to take control of others of which we have seen several examples of in the past several decades.
I wonder how many people have read ALL the enfo from the website Formypeople.org. or have they just heard what someone said and believed them. Ernie Knoll did confess he had lied, even went to the Lord with what he had done and as God always does with each one of us forgave Ernie. Does that mean God can not use us because we messed up? How would God ever get the work done here on earth if he couldn’t use people who messed up. In the bible we have story after story that tell of Gods people who lied killed ect… But God forgave them and kept using them. Is God different today? No! I would suggest everyone read all the dreams and the truth books before passing judgment. If we truely trust God then he will lead you to what is right and wrong. We should not take someone’s word for it. Search for yourself.
Preface: Jesus was called a false prophet by jealous church leadership, as he pointed out truths and their faults were exposed- one by one. Moses did signs and wonders for God in Egypt, then He did the sacrilegious act of hitting that Rick when he wasn’t to do it. He was punished. But, he repented. He’s in heaven right now as a result of his reverence for shod and his meekness. Saul, the anointed prophet and king, did great things for God and then went on a path of disobedience. His pride kept him from humbling himself in true repentance in the end. David, the anointed prophet and king, strayed for a moment from God’s will, lusted, stole, lied and had a man killed in cold blood. He humbly repented and was restored. God always has a messenger in every age. If you think that Ellen White was the only prophet in her time you need to look back in the annals of the churches history, because you are absolutely wrong. William Miller was a prophet and there were others. Did they make mistakes along the way- those of which they were ignorant and those of which they were not- yes.
God is still speaking through prophets who have dreams and visions. Without a vision the people perish Proverbs 29:18. Joel 2 speaks of Gods people having dreams and visions and hundreds of years later, it was still heralded and proven in the book of Acts, but also in the gospels and all of the way to John the Revelators “Revelation of Jesus Christ. I have met Ernie (and Becky)in person. God has moved my heart to colabor with them before this controversy. He gave me dreams showing that key points Ernie made are consistent with His word, with the exception of the error of discussion in the Candence storyline- which was like an anomaly and so much on the sideline in my mind when encountered. I just couldn’t figure this out because she did not travel with them when they went from state to state sharing the message…Also, before this controversy unfolded, Gid gave me a dark dream of trouble concerning Ernie. I prayed for him and then found the announcement from the Board if Directors… I personally contacted him and gave words of encouragement. He had been rejected by many and made embellishments so he could try to feel better, which we all know is him walking in flesh and not by faith. God has forgiven him, just as David was forgiven. Just as Peter was forgiven and restored to discipleship. So, before you “cast the first stone,” examine yourself. God is finishing His work on the Earth and needs the church, with prophetic zeal, to herald the last warning of the 3 angels messages. If you do this and are walking in Jesus’ light, you are a true prophet (messenger- like John the Baptist…) of God. By the way, Ernie, in his other discourses did not present new light. If we are supporting conferences that are placing funds in the stock market and sit on the sidelines and say nothing, We are in the wrong and are in deep trouble. This behaviir is underway by the GC and subsidiaries. It’s a known fact. One of our church founders, Ellen White, warns against this practice. The GC is not owning up to what the founders taught in this regard, and it’s a major problem. We better work out our own salvation in the fear of the Lord God and trembling in these last perilous days. Watch and Pray!!!