How much do you think of their behavior was dictated by their culture? And if it were influenced by culture, are we bound to continue with the tradition? Which possibly means God has no place for Chinese food in heaven.
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I think I asked you these questions before, and you never answered. So, letâs try again:
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Can you come up with at least ONE biblical verse - one will do it - where a man was ordained in the same sense as ministers are ordained in our days?
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Do you know when, historically, the process of ordination (as known today) was introduced in the Christian Church, by whom, and for what reasons?
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How do you know this? Can you prove it with some quote from anyone? Just because itâs not recorded does not mean it never happened.
What we certainly know is that she was given (and gladly accepted) at least 6 (SIX!) Certificates of Ordination between 1883 and 1913, and here you can see them all:
She was an ordained minister - though Kevin Paulson said these were âillegalâ certificates, thus accusing the pioneers of doing something illegal in this sense.
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I copied that comment of Kevinâs so I can enlarge & frame it. 
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ROFL every time I read this âreasoning.â As if a woman didnât & doesnât still carry the highest teaching authority in this churchâofficially, according to the 28 Fun Beliefs. No male has âteaching authorityâ to contradict EGW.
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It is so entertaining to watch as those opposed to wo twist there way throught the âlogical constructsâ they have created. But Somehow I just canât follow it, or maybe I can, but the logic really leads to a different conclusion than they want.
I wonder sometime if the men who are against wo are actually scared of the potential completion.
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Your comments make me think of Poeâs Law.
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Iâm going to start referring to claims about male leadership/headship as: âThe Doctrine of Male Narcissismâ.
Itâs nothing more or less than that.
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And apparent fear of change . . .
For many it may certainly be a disguised for of paranoia, a fear to lose power and control, a constant and persistent feeling of being threatened by those women who want to use their God-given talents to advance God cause.
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In the parable of the talents, the servant with the one talent was afraid of his master and did not use his talent. (Mat 25:14-30) The servants who were not afraid used their talents. The doing nothing without an explicit command seems very similarâŚ
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Isnât that phenomenon also known as âdemasculinization?â Formally known as âCastration anxiety.â
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Huss, as I recall was killed by the govt urged on by the church leaders.
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George, I would even say it a little different: who want to do what God has called them to do.
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Agree! Those anti-WO may not realize that they may be making such a great effort thinking itâs something honorable while it may actually be just an operation that is blocking Godâs call to those women.
Who else would be also so much interested in blocking Godâs call to women, huh?
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lol wow! when you lot come out, you come out together and in force 
Is it possible, just possible, that those (at least some) who dont believe in W/O do so because of scripture? and not because their sexiest, fascist and close minded? Oh!..wait, and lets not forget, bigoted too lol
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IF, how does the the pay, benefits, and the work opportunities for Bible workers compared to Pastors?
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Tony, I did. I was against WO based on scripture. I was very active in my opposition. Then I started a more detailed study Just me and my Bible and my concordance and software - and found out I was wrong on everything I had believed. It didnât happen all at once. It took years for me to accept and admit I was mistaken. Longer to find out the real structure of the church that was set up in 1901 with the encouragement of EGW and which is still in place.
I believe there are many men and women who are opposing wo with the best of intents but I think they are badly mistaken. However I have hope. Joel 2 tells me that someday things are going to be right for men and women in ministry. I am not sure but i am beginning to believe our trusting Godâs call of women a prerequisite to the latter rain 'caue until then we wonât accept what He is planning to do. I pray that I live to see the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the Second Coming.
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Yes.
I fear that we are forgetting that many of the delicates attending the simplosium are actually nearing perfection. Perfection!
Perhaps that is why we here at Spectrum were literally the last people in the WORLD to hear about it?
I mean, even Kevin couldnât be bothered to tell us!
Is this âThe Spectrum Crowdâ bottoming out? A new low?
The door shutting?
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Well, on the other side, why should they bother inviting us?
- They know the proWO wouldnât go anyway.
- If we showed up, there would be the danger of questions being asked, which could end up being embarrassing for them.
- The boys, the women discriminators, are going to have a blast at their own reserved (secretive?) party, aka symposium.
I wonder if TW was invited. If not, why not?
Let them dance their dance. They are only going to reaffirm their bias and discriminatory agenda. We all already know the content and the goals.
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